Like the stick and the bear part :-)

John Drucker
Assistant Construction Official
Fire Protection Subcode Official
jdruc...@redbanknj.org<mailto:jdruc...@redbanknj.org>
Cell/Text 732-904-6823


Roland Huggins <rhugg...@firesprinkler.org> wrote:

DOE showed us long ago that a standard wet pipe system is more than appropriate 
for server rooms etc.   Nonetheless, we have to keep in mind that we are 
dealing with perceptions by OTHERS (not facts) and by the time you are 
addressing sprinklers, the window for addressing better options has often 
closed.  Now put your stick away and stop picking on the bear.

Roland


Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering
American Fire Sprinkler Assn.       ---      Fire Sprinklers Saves Lives
Dallas, TX
http://www.firesprinkler.org <http://www.firesprinkler.org/>





> On Nov 20, 2015, at 8:52 AM, rongreenman . <rongreen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Roland. Freezer warehouse protection in a server room??????? Cryogenic
> cooling maybe?????? I see no advantage to the added complexity and just a
> lot of added cost in installation and maintenance, apart from the increased
> risk of unreliability with a DIPA. If, as you say, loss of data is the
> concern wet pipe with offsite backup. If continuity of business (of if a
> supercomputer for a server room 😵) then a SIPA with pipe integrity
> monitoring (12oz air) would be advisable. Or maybe if this is all so
> critical you can build a back-up server room with wet sprinks. Savings in
> not installing SIPA and its associated maintenance cost (and unreliability
> if not maintained properly–amazing how many "professionals" don't
> understand pre-action) and the cost of two hour rooms might offset the
> duplicate computers in another location within the facility.
>
> And of course, on a seperate topic, there's the no storage in a room with a
> door clause that means there will be storage. Testing a halon with SIPA
> back-up once. Found four wonder gas bottles in a bank and removed the
> solenoid releases for the test. Fortunately the tech needed a tool and so I
> just wandered around a little. Found some big pressure hosing going into a
> closet. Looked in the closet and it was full pf empty cardboard boxes.
> Pulled some out and found a fifth halon bottle. lucky day.
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 12:08 PM, David Blackwell <
> david.blackw...@llr.sc.gov> wrote:
>
>> D
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