We have requested written verification of all requirements. I appreciate the 
help from all. I will update the forum on how it turns out.

Rod at Rapid

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Michael Hill
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 10:09 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Army Corp of Engineer Safety - Risk assessment

Build the system on the floor and then have the Corps send an engineer out to 
figure out how to raise it in place. Why are people making it so hard for us to 
our jobs.


Mike Hill


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Rod DiBona
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 11:58 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Army Corp of Engineer Safety - Risk assessment

Ben, Ken, Mike,

This is a similar issue as Mark at Aero had dealt with back then. We have a JHA 
(Job Hazard Analysis) that details the requirements in EM385 where we use the 
pipe cradle in the middle of the lift, meet all manufacturer lb requirements, 
red tape off the area below etc. The new twist is that they are claiming that 
we can't lift the pipe off the cradle and put in in place.
We are asking for documentation as we have been told it is "OSHA" which refers 
you to a formula in NIOSH for repetitive lifting requirements. We are 
investigating this as we speak. Unreal... 

Rod

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Parsley Consulting
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2016 9:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Army Corp of Engineer Safety - Risk assessment

Rod,
     In five minutes I looked at the section in EM 385-1-1 (Dated 05 Jul 11), 
which covered the use of "Elevating Work Platforms/Scissor Lifts", and it sure 
sounds as though they're allowed, with certain provisions for anchorage, 
restraint for the workers, and warning for workers at the floor level.
     The sections which appeared applicable to me were 21.J.04, 21.J.05, and 
21.K, which were on pages 21-22 and 21-23.
     In short, Rod, make the individual insisting this can't be done show you 
specifically what they're using to support that conclusion.
     My two favorite words "prove it."
good luck, pal,
*Ken Wagoner, SET
*Parsley Consulting***
*350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206
*Escondido, California 92025
*****Phone 760-745-6181*
Visit our website <http://www.parsleyconsulting.com/> ***


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