For crying out loud though, isn't the max 'ceiling height' for this application THREE FEET? On Feb 12, 2016 9:54 AM, "Travis Mack, SET" <[email protected]> wrote:
> You and I are on the same page. We were just hoping to get a definitive > answer from the manufacturer. > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > 2508 E Lodgepole Drive > Gilbert, AZ 85298 > 480-505-9271 > fax: 866-430-6107 > email:[email protected] > > http://www.mfpdesign.com > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > On 2/12/2016 8:53 AM, Ed Kramer wrote: > >> The AHJ is going to have to make the final call. My pay scale isn't high >> enough to make those types decisions, but if it were, I'd say no. If >> water >> spray from the 1st sprinkler or 2 damages the insulation to allow heat to >> flow past it, you've lost your heat barrier and the 1000 sf design area is >> out-the-window. >> >> Back to my regularly scheduled program. >> >> Ed Kramer >> Bamford Fire Sprinkler >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto: >> [email protected]] >> On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET >> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 9:28 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Tyco CC sprinklers / draft curtain >> >> That is what the contractor is arguing. The NFPA 13 definitions of draft >> curtains are in reference to separation of ESFR and SR, water spray >> systems >> and hazard separation. >> >> It is an outside the box thinking for sure. As you say, if it is stapled >> to >> the deck, that would prevent heat from passing through and over. That is >> the only criteria in the datasheet. >> >> >> Travis Mack, SET >> MFP Design, LLC >> 2508 E Lodgepole Drive >> Gilbert, AZ 85298 >> 480-505-9271 >> fax: 866-430-6107 >> email:[email protected] >> >> http://www.mfpdesign.com >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 >> Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign >> >> On 2/12/2016 8:19 AM, Matthew J Willis wrote: >> >>> LOL. >>> >>> I say it does meet it. >>> Insulation by default blocks heat.. >>> >>> R/ >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> Matthew J. Willis >>> Project Manager >>> Rapid Fire Protection Inc. >>> *NEW ADDRESS* >>> 1530 Samco Road >>> Rapid City, SD 57702 >>> Office-605.348.2342 >>> Direct Line-605.593.5063 >>> Cell-605.391.2733 >>> Fax:-605.348.0108 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Sprinklerforum >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>> Travis Mack >>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 8:16 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Tyco CC sprinklers / draft curtain >>> >>> Well, the customer called Tyco and they could not say definitively if the >>> >> insulation would meet the requirements or not. >> >>> >>> >>> Travis Mack, SET >>> MFP Design, LLC >>> "Follow" us on Facebook: >>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 >>> Send large files to MFP Design via: >>> https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Travis Mack, SET <[email protected]> >>>> >>> wrote: >> >>> I have a customer that is asking if batt insulation can be secured to the >>>> >>> roof decking and used as a draft curtain for the Tyco CC sprinklers. I >> have >> never seen an application such as this, but it doesn't seem to be >> prohibited >> in the datasheet. The only requirement is that it must be constructed of >> a >> material so that heat can not pass through or over. >> >>> What do you think? Could insulation secured to the roof/floor deck serve >>>> >>> as a draft curtain for these sprinklers? My gut feeling is that it would >> not be suitable, but I can't find something in the data sheet to support >> that. My only thought is that activation of a sprinkler could possibly >> knock the insulation down. >> >>> -- >>>> Travis Mack, SET >>>> MFP Design, LLC >>>> 2508 E Lodgepole Drive >>>> Gilbert, AZ 85298 >>>> 480-505-9271 >>>> fax: 866-430-6107 >>>> email:[email protected] >>>> >>>> http://www.mfpdesign.com >>>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 >>>> Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprink >>>> ler.org >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >>> er.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >>> er.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
