NFPA 20, 4.14.3.1 tells me to be 0 or higher on the suction side.

Richard Carr, SET
Branch Manager
Cox Fire Protection, Inc
6555 Grace Lane.
Jacksonville, Fl. 32205
[email protected]
904-781-8227


-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 8:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Oversized fire pump

My concern is that the 18 psi suction pressure occurs at rated flow. Since the 
pump has the capacity to flow at 150%, is there a danger of dropping the 
suction pressure dangerously low. The building is a hospital.

Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT 
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Richard Carr <[email protected]> wrote:
If you maintaining 18 psi on the suction side with the pump running, why would 
you do anything?

Richard Carr, SET
Branch Manager
Cox Fire Protection, Inc
6555 Grace Lane.
Jacksonville, Fl. 32205
[email protected]
904-781-8227

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Matt Grise
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:42 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: Oversized fire pump

How about a suction control valve?

Matt Grisé PE*, LEED AP, NICET II
Sales Engineer
Alliance Fire Protection
130 w 9th Ave.
North Kansas City, MO 64116

*Licensed in KS & MO

913.888.0647 ph
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913.526.7443 cell
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-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Todd Williams
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 6:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Oversized fire pump

I am working on a facility with a fire pump that was oversized for the 
available public water supply. The pump is 1500 gpm at 85 psi. At 1500 gpm, the 
suction pressure drops to 18 psi. This is characteristic of the water supply 
and is not due to a shut valve or other obstruction. The pump was installed in 
2009.
Are
there any safeguards that I should recommend for this situation?

Todd G Williams, PE Fire Protection Design/Consulting Stonington, CT
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