Might want to get the controllers out too :)

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On Feb 24, 2016 6:54 AM, "Michael Hill" <[email protected]> wrote:

> As contractors, depending on which side we are trying to prove, the sump
> pump is either sufficient to meet this section or it is not enough.
> Confined space entry may be the best way to get the pump out of the pit.
>
> Mike Hill
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of John Drucker - Home
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:42 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Fire pump in pit
>
> 2013 NFPA-20
>
> 4.12.1  General Requirements. "The fire pump, driver, controller, water
> supply, and power supply shall be protected against possible interruption
> of
> service through damage caused by explosion, fire, flood, earthquake,
> rodents, insects, windstorm, freezing, vandalism, and other adverse
> conditions."
>
> As a an AHJ would never allow this.
>
> Hope this helps
>
>
> John Drucker, CET
> Assistant Construction Official
> Fire Protection Subcode Official
> Building/Fire/Electrical Inspector
> Borough of Red Bank
> Red Bank, New Jersey
> Email: [email protected]
> Cell/Text: 732-904-6823
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET
> Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:31 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Fire pump in pit
>
> Is there anything in NFPA 20 that would prohibit a fire pump from being
> located in a pit?  We have a project with 2 pumps.  This is an existing
> facility.  These pumps are in two separate pits.  One is diesel, one is
> electric.  Currently, both of the pits are about half full of water as the
> sump pumps failed in both.  We are trying to convince the owner to get
> these
> pumps above grade.  It seems stupid to protect a $$million+ data center
> with
> a system, then rely on a $20 sump pump to keep the pits dry.  There is a
> big
> retrofit at this site.  Tried to do a site flow test, downstream of pumps,
> today and found this issue.
>
> So, just hoping to be able to find code/standard section that would
> prohibit
> this.  Owner's first thought is to just make band-aid repairs.
> But, we are all concerned that this will happen again and leave the data
> center at risk.
>
> --
> Travis Mack, SET
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