I have investigated several dozens of flooded pump rooms ... Dan
Dan Arbel Risk Engineering T: 972-4-8243337 F: 972-4-8243278 M: 972-52-6611337 Mail: [email protected] W: www.riskmanage.com -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Scott Futrell Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 4:04 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fire pump in pit And then there is confined space entry... Scott Office: (763) 425-1001 x 202 Cell: (612) 759-5556 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Drucker - Home Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Fire pump in pit 2013 NFPA-20 4.12.1 General Requirements. "The fire pump, driver, controller, water supply, and power supply shall be protected against possible interruption of service through damage caused by explosion, fire, flood, earthquake, rodents, insects, windstorm, freezing, vandalism, and other adverse conditions." As a an AHJ would never allow this. Hope this helps John Drucker, CET Assistant Construction Official Fire Protection Subcode Official Building/Fire/Electrical Inspector Borough of Red Bank Red Bank, New Jersey Email: [email protected] Cell/Text: 732-904-6823 -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Travis Mack, SET Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:31 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Fire pump in pit Is there anything in NFPA 20 that would prohibit a fire pump from being located in a pit? We have a project with 2 pumps. This is an existing facility. These pumps are in two separate pits. One is diesel, one is electric. Currently, both of the pits are about half full of water as the sump pumps failed in both. We are trying to convince the owner to get these pumps above grade. It seems stupid to protect a $$million+ data center with a system, then rely on a $20 sump pump to keep the pits dry. There is a big retrofit at this site. Tried to do a site flow test, downstream of pumps, today and found this issue. So, just hoping to be able to find code/standard section that would prohibit this. Owner's first thought is to just make band-aid repairs. But, we are all concerned that this will happen again and leave the data center at risk. -- Travis Mack, SET MFP Design, LLC 2508 E Lodgepole Drive Gilbert, AZ 85298 480-505-9271 fax: 866-430-6107 email:[email protected] http://www.mfpdesign.com https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 Send large files to us via: https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
