I'll be contacting the manufacturer later today to verify, but I think I'm
stuck with 1,000 sf.  In this particular case, I'm using a 16' x 16' spacing
(5.8K).  Calcing 8 of those will be a demand significantly larger than the
demand of 4 residential sprinks.  

Ed Kramer
Bamford Fire Sprinkler

-----Original Message-----
From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Tony Eggster
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2016 5:48 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Combustible concealed space sprinklers

In my opinion you're going to have to stick to manufacturer listing for
these. I don't know of any type of exception. Fortunately they're only 4.2K
factor so chances are, if this is a 13 system, your pendants will more than
likely still be the driving factor depending on spacing and layout - even
though they're only four in the design area.

On Mon, Mar 14, 2016 at 3:39 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Ed,
>
> I think the only thing special about a COIN-type sprinkler is that, if 
> spaced (and calc'd) correctly the patterns will overlap in a shallow
depth.
> So if I were King, or better yet an AHJ, I would accept room design.
>
> Brad
> On Mar 14, 2016 5:25 PM, "Ed Kramer" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Working on a project where listed combustible concealed space 
> > sprinklers (such as Viking COIN) are required.  Data sheets call for 
> > a design area
> of
> > 1,000 sf.  However, the combustible concealed spaces on several 
> > floors of this motel are compartmented into areas of approx 345 sf 
> > via 1-hour rated walls.  A 1,000 sf design area would include  up to 
> > 8 sprinklers,
> whereas a
> > design area  of (1) 1-hour rated compartment would include only 3 
> > sprinklers.  I'd love to use the room design method and calc only 3 
> > sprinklers, but since these are specially listed sprinklers and the
> listing
> > calls for 1,000 sf, I don't believe I'm allowed to do that.  Anybody 
> > else run into this or have an opinion?
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed Kramer
> >
> > Bamford Fire Sprinkler
> >
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