Jerry: I served as a technical expert on the Poz-Lok class action lawsuit that led to shutting down the line and the liquidation of Northwest Pipe. That case started as a construction defects litigation here in California and morphed into a class case as we learned of the pandemic problems with the piping just about everywhere it was installed. A couple years ago, I heard that there were a few cached parts and pieces here and there but for the most part it’s long-gone and knowing what I do about the product, its wall thickness and especially, the sloppy manufacturing standards that were held to when the line was running, I would not advise anyone make improvements or modifications to that stuff. If I were the contractor or consultant of record, I’d specify removal and replacement or, if faced with client insistence that work proceed, I’d resign the matter. Even cutting a single hole for a saddle could cause the seam to shear and that’s on a good day.
My opinions only, Steve Leyton From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 3:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: POZ-LOC System RFI Greetings to All From New Mexico: I have a Client (hotel) with a wet-pipe fire sprinkler system, two floors, all POZ-LOK pipe and 'fittings'. Transitioning from Hampton Inn to Marriott format. Can anyone offer input/ comments about keeping the POZ-LOK in place while, at same time, is anyone aware of where said pipe and fittings might be purchased or is it all "gone"?? Some revisions to the system will be required for new walls/ceilings, etc., thus, Owner needs to be able to procure parts. Any and all responses will be most welcome. Obviously, we are trying to avoid removing the entire system and 'starting over'. Gracias from Nuevo Mejico!! Jerry [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Jerry D. Watts, MSFPE President & Co-Founder ACCENT FIRE ENGINEERING INT'L. Ltd. Santa Fe, New Mexico USA (800) 503.1961 nationwide In a message dated 5/13/2016 2:27:47 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> writes: Tim, There are some NFPA13 R pump manufacturers that have a fire pump skid and tank assemblies for NFPA 13-R water supplies. Regards Davidson Associates Fire Protection Engineering P. O. Box 4002 Code Consultants Greenville, DE 19807 (302) 994-9500 Fax (302) 994-3414 CONFIDENTIALITY This report and any attachments are confidential and also may be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, or have otherwise received this report in error, please destroy the report, notify the sender immediately, and do not disclose its contents to any other person, use them for any purpose, or store or copy them in any medium. Thank you for your cooperation. From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tim Stone Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 10:16 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Polyethylene Tanks Are there any requirements in NFPA 22 not allowing the use of Polyethylene water storage tanks for residential or commercial sprinkler systems? These tanks are installed above ground usually in Basements. The local State agency is getting ready to adopt the 2013 edition of NFPA 22 and I am being told NFPA 22 only permits Fiberglass. I don’t see where Polyethylene is excluded. Thoughts please. Regards, G. Tim Stone G. Tim Stone Consulting, LLC NICET Level III Engineering Technician Fire Protection Sprinkler Design and Consulting Services 117 Old Stage Rd. - Essex Jct., VT. 05452 CELL: (802) 373-0638 TEL: (802) 434-2968 Fax: (802) 434-4343 [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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