The system demand is 2210.4 ,

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL
Sent: April-06-17 4:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NFPA 20 4.7.7.2

You can't use the PRV to relieve excess pressure under normal conditions due to 
an over designed pump.  There can be unexpected times in a municipal supply 
where pressure spikes occur for various reasons.  If your pump selection puts 
you close to the maximum system working pressure under normal conditions and a 
spike in the supply were to occur, with no means of relief, downstream system 
damage could occur.


One other concern over this selection is that it is a 1500 gpm pump with only a 
1583 gpm tested source flow rate.  The pump may not be capable of reaching the 
150 % mark unless you know if the municipal supply can actually provide more 
than 1583 gpm.  Not knowing the actual system demands makes it difficult to 
address this issue any farther.





Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540
Fax - 864.920.7129
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Tom Duross
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:34 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: NFPA 20 4.7.7.2 [EXTERNAL]

Looks like you could be above 200 PSI churn or system pressure.  The standard 
(2013 referenced) does not allow you to use the relief as a means of blowing 
off excess pressure above 175.
Tom

Is the 140 psi total pressure or pump rating?

The pressure relief valve comes into play if the combination of supply pressure 
and pump pressure exceeds the allowable system pressure, which for most cases 
is 175 psi.

So if you had fluctuating supply pressures, during a higher than normal 
pressure event, the system could relieve and not damage your downstream, 175 
psi rated system.

Is this a diesel or electric?

How much pressure do you need at these heads?


Craig L. Prahl

Hi Forum ,

Could someone shed some light on the requirements for 4.7.7.2  .   I have a 
project where the quoted fire pump comes with a Pressure relief valve and waste 
cone .

City pressure is 58/56/1586  ,  we are using a 1500gpm pump at 140 psi to get 
the flow and pressure we need to supply a freezer using LP-46 heads .  I find 
many references to the use of Pressure relief valves being
Used but 4.7.7.2 is  causing me to scratch my head .


Colin





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