I believe that K-25.2 ESFR sprinkler is listed with a 175 psi max. working 
pressure. With a 50 psi pressure, you are most likely dealing with 30 to 35 ft 
storage in a 40 ft high building, so the sprinkler would be at a max. elevation 
of about 39 ft and the highest churn pressure you could ever be allowed would 
be:

175 psi + 39 ft x 0.433 psi/ft = 191.9 psi.

If there are any sprinklers at lower elevations, under obstructions, etc. then 
even lower max. pressures would be allowed.

Therefore you are not allowed to sustain the 211 psi static under any 
circumstances.

My suggestion is to increase the pipe sizing and decrease the pump pressure 
rating.
Also, there is no rule against it in the standard, but I've always felt it to 
be a poor practice to push towards the 150% of pump flow rating. If the flow 
demand goes past the 120% +/- range, I recommend going to the next available 
rating.

Larry Keeping

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Colin Carew (Cambridge)
Sent: April-06-17 4:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: NFPA 20 4.7.7.2

140 is the pump rating ,   we sitting at 211 static .   I understand the 
premise ,  4.7.7.2 says I am not allowed to do it .  but the biggest challenge 
is that my system design is 12 heads at 50 psi , K25.2 .  I am just squeaking 
under
Demand . I am not sure what other option I have .

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Prahl, Craig/GVL
Sent: April-06-17 4:32 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: RE: NFPA 20 4.7.7.2

Is the 140 psi total pressure or pump rating?

The pressure relief valve comes into play if the combination of supply pressure 
and pump pressure exceeds the allowable system pressure, which for most cases 
is 175 psi.

So if you had fluctuating supply pressures, during a higher than normal 
pressure event, the system could relieve and not damage your downstream, 175 
psi rated system.

Is this a diesel or electric?

How much pressure do you need at these heads?


Craig L. Prahl
Fire Protection Group Lead/SME
CH2M
200 Verdae Blvd.
Greenville, SC  29607
Direct - 864.920.7540
Fax - 864.920.7129
CH2MHILL Extension  77540
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Colin Carew (Cambridge)
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2017 4:21 PM
To: 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: NFPA 20 4.7.7.2 [EXTERNAL]

Hi Forum ,

Could someone shed some light on the requirements for 4.7.7.2  .   I have a 
project where the quoted fire pump comes with a Pressure relief valve and waste 
cone .

City pressure is 58/56/1586  ,  we are using a 1500gpm pump at 140 psi to get 
the flow and pressure we need to supply a freezer using LP-46 heads .  I find 
many references to the use of Pressure relief valves being
Used but 4.7.7.2 is  causing me to scratch my head .


Colin





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