Obviously they will have their say but in Florida, local fire authorities are not permitted to make requirements outside of the Florida Fire Prevention Code without actually passing an ordinance.
John Irwin - CET Division Manager - Fire Sprinklers Critical System Solutions, LLC Licence Number: FPC16-000053 Cell: 813.618.2781 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 9:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Covered Restaurant Seating Area I suggest you run those by your local building and fire officials. Steve -------- Original message -------- From: John Irwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 4/17/17 6:00 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Covered Restaurant Seating Area I would disagree with this unless you can direct me to some more information. 8.15.7.3(2) even goes on to spell out Light and Ordinary Hazard Occupancy situations where sprinklers can be omitted. John Irwin - CET Division Manager - Fire Sprinklers Critical System Solutions, LLC Licence Number: FPC16-000053 Cell: 813.618.2781 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [cid:[email protected]] From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:53 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Covered Restaurant Seating Area Overhang exceptions only apply when the area below is not used for storage or handling of combustibles or otherwise classified as occupied by the applicable building code or building official. As Spicey would say, restaurant seating areas are assembly occupancy, PERIOD! Steve -------- Original message -------- From: John Irwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 4/17/17 5:45 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Covered Restaurant Seating Area I'm using 13 8.15.7 to argue that if the fabric covering the steel frame is non-combustible than perhaps the sprinklers are not required. [cid:[email protected]] John Irwin - CET Division Manager - Fire Sprinklers Critical System Solutions, LLC Licence Number: FPC16-000053 Cell: 813.618.2781 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [cid:[email protected]] From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Leyton Sent: Monday, April 17, 2017 8:33 AM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: RE: Covered Restaurant Seating Area Often, we try to read the standards backwards. The way that NFPA 13 is written, it requires sprinklers everywhere. What the client is hopeful of is an exception but I'm pretty sure they are not going to find one for this particular application. If I'm taking the contrary point of view, I would say that instead of looking for a section that requires sprinklers here or there, show me where it says I don't have to put sprinklers over this occupied area that is part of the use of the protected premises. Steve Leyton -------- Original message -------- From: John Irwin <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> Date: 4/17/17 4:11 AM (GMT-08:00) To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Covered Restaurant Seating Area Here's the situation. Existing restaurant seating area covered by steel frame and vinyl or nylon tarp. 100% open. Protected with sprinklers. Additional covered seating area being added that will be steel frame but insulated aluminum panel roof. 100% open. Client doesn't believe sprinklers are required and wants the existing sprinklers under the vinyl canopy removed. Can someone direct me to code references? John Irwin Division Manager - Fire Sprinklers Critical System Solutions, LLC License Number: FPC16-000053 2830 Scherer Drive, Suite 300 St. Petersburg, FL 33716 Office: 727.209.5122 Fax: 727.209.5126 Cell: 813.618.2781 Email: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
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