I asked once and they said that tab was for lifting.

From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of Parsley Consulting
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2017 11:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: In Building Riser -- Restraints - Character set not allowed

Shawn,
    It might be worth asking the people at Ames/Watts why they provide rodding 
brackets on the device if that's an unacceptable method of joint restraint.  
I'd be interested in the answer.
sincerely,
Ken Wagoner, SET
Parsley Consulting
350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206
Escondido, California 92025
Phone 760-745-6181
Visit our website<http://www.parsleyconsulting.com/>
On 04/27/2017 7:43 AM, Shawn Chapman wrote:

Ames/Watts will NOT go on record to allow it without a thrust block @ the turn 
up elbow.  Practicality?? to rod back, but no document to allow.  Just went 
through the same scenario.





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From: Smith, David <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>

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Sent: Wed, Apr 26, 2017 7:18 pm

Subject: RE: In Building Riser -- Restraints







Great, thanks! This was actually the first time we had it come up on the 1 
piece riser. I’m assuming the other underground contractors simply poured a 
thrust block because it was either habit or easier than educating us…









David Smith | DeputyFire Marshal

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From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]]On 
Behalf Of Richard Carr

Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 4:00 PM

To: 
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Subject: RE: In Building Riser -- Restraints







You have 3 options,



Thrust block



Mega lug type



Rod back to fitting.

















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-------- Original message --------

From: "Smith, David" <[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>

Date: 4/26/17 6:52 PM (GMT-05:00)

To: 
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Subject: In Building Riser -- Restraints



Quick question came up recently on the 1 piece in building risers. Typically we 
have seen contractors provide thrust blocks at the bend. We’ve had one 
installed recently without one and the foundation was poured before we were 
able to view it. The contractor is advising us that a thrust block is not 
needed. The specification sheet provided advises:



If the piping installation is essentially complete, the piping

restraints may adequately take the thrust loads generated by

having a blind end on the pipe system. In these cases, no

special actions to restrain thrust or side loads are required,

and the fitting installed in the system may be adequate for

hydrostatic testing.



Is the restraint at the pipe connection on the supply side all that is needed?







David Smith | DeputyFire Marshal

P 503.635.0378 | F 503.635.0376

[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

300 B Avenue | PO BOX 369 Lake Oswego OR 97034





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