Normally the criteria for the sprinklers should have been handled during the building plan review cycle.
Have we assured that the NFPA 30 is where we should be heading, and not the IBC/IFC? "Someone said...". There is probably a letter with the actual comment from the AHJ. Without seeing it we're just shooting in the dark. Best, Bruce Verhei > On May 24, 2017, at 12:21, Smith, David <[email protected]> wrote: > > That seems small for a ‘warehouse.’ Is this within another building as a > control area or a separate detached building? What is the occupancy class? > > If this is an IBC/IFC area, be certain to review Chapter 50 and Chapter 57 of > the IFC. There are other requirements with regards to maximum storage heights > whether it’s solid pile or on rack storage, need for secondary containment > including fire flow, sprinkler demand, minimum distances between piles or > rack, etc. that will apply. > > I have seen/heard of very similar scenarios as described for distillery type > facilities that are growing. I’m also confused/concerned about why the > warehouse did not require sprinkler protection but is required by the AHJ. > Our role is to verify code compliance, not mandate code. So if it wasn’t > required, there must be some additional things going on; is there some type > of alternate methods and materials situation? If the AHJ is requiring > sprinklers if the code doesn’t necessitate them, I would be posing the design > questions back to the AHJ. > > > <image002.png>David Smith | Deputy Fire Marshal > P 503.635.0378 | F 503.635.0376 > [email protected] > 300 B Avenue | PO BOX 369 Lake Oswego OR 97034 > > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] > On Behalf Of James Crawford > Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 4:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Flammable & Combustible storage > > NFPA #30 (2008 ed) > > We have a client that has a Liquid warehouse (1,200 ft²) that did not require > sprinkler protection by code, but did require sprinkler protection by the AHJ > to get a building permit. The system is an Ordinary hazard group 2 dry system. > > They store class II and IIIB liquids in steel drums and Plastic IBC, > originally storage was on the floor to 4’-0” one drum or tote high. > > But as with all thing the company grows and they want to store higher. > > Table 12.6.2.2 Quantity Limitations for unprotected Liquid Warehouses will > allow 10’-0” of class II and 15’-0” of class IIIB > > So my understanding is that unprotected is defined as not protected to NFPA > #30, so based on Table 12.6.2.2 they can store these products to the heights > noted even thou the area is sprinkled to NFPA #13 Ordinary hazard group 2. > > Am I missing something? > > > Thank you > > > James Crawford > Phaser Fire Protection Ltd. > Phone 604-888-0318 > Fax 604-888-4732 > Cel 604-790-0938 > Email [email protected] > Web www.phaserfire.ca > > PUBLIC RECORDS LAW DISCLOSURE This e-mail is a public record of the City of > Lake Oswego and is subject to public disclosure unless exempt from disclosure > under Oregon Public Records Law. This email is subject to the State Retention > Schedule. > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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