The main is the 1st floor. Seating is around the tanks.

900sqft for tanks

Basement is processing and production





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Is the 900 sq. ft. opening to accommodate the height of the tanks.

The tanks and their associated piping and controls are visible on the same 
level as the seating around the tanks?  Is 1st flr and main level the same 
level or is it basement, 1st level with seating and main level above 1st for 
restaurant?

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Yes. F-1 in the basement with a through floor opening for the tanks. Seating on 
the 1st around the tanks. Main level is restaurant with restaurant seating.

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So, is the A occupancy on the first floor and F-1 is the second floor?

Is there seating on the first level and the opening is so you can see the 
equipment on the second floor?


Per the IBC, for a fully sprinklered building there is a 1-hour fire separation 
requirement between F-1 and A.  (Table 508.4)

If that is the case, someone has a problem that sprinklers cannot fix.


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Restaurant/ Brewery

No ratings, Something about F1 to A not requiring separation

Light hazard seating ordinary in the brew area.


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Is this like an atrium?

What's the occupancy?

Any fire rating of floor/ceiling between levels?



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Quoting JD Gamble <jgam...@lssofsheridan.com<mailto:jgam...@lssofsheridan.com>>:

> I have a situation where we have 900sq.ft. vertical opening
> communicating between two floors where a draft stop is not a viable
> solution due to head room clearance.  The design team isn't sure if or
> how to protect it?  Thoughts? Options?
>
> It's a Light Hazard - Ord Hazard occ.  The idea of "Barn Door" style
> sliding doors is being proposed but my fear is these things being left
> open in a fire situation.
>
> I thought there was some direction in the 101 about communicating
> spaces, but not sure.  We do not recognize the 101 at the AHL level
> but I think I could offer it as guidance .
>
> Life Safety Solutions of Sheridan
>
> JD Gamble
> jgam...@lssofsheridan.com<mailto:jgam...@lssofsheridan.com<mailto:jgam...@lssofsheridan.com%3cmailto:jgam...@lssofsheridan.com>>
> (307) 763-3361



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