I believe Powers “snake” was also approved in cracked concrete.
Dewayne Martinez Fire Protection Design Manager *TOTAL* *Mechanical* *Building* *Integrity* W234 N2830 Paul Rd. Pewaukee, WI 53072 [email protected] Ph: 262-522-7110 Cell: 414-406-5208 http://www.total-mechanical.com/ [image: Consecutive Honors 2012-2017] *From:* Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Kyle.Montgomery *Sent:* Monday, May 7, 2018 9:56 AM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Drop In Anchors for Seismic Now that looks promising. Thanks guys. *From:* Sprinklerforum [ mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Rocci 3 Cetani *Sent:* Monday, May 7, 2018 7:41 AM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* RE: [EXTERNAL] Re: Drop In Anchors for Seismic Was just about to recommend this one! Only one I can seem to find that’s rated for cracked concrete, lots of help on those PT jobs there the anchor wasn’t set correctly or changes are needed *Rocci Cetani III, **CET* *Senior Designer* *Water-Based Fire Protections Systems Layout, Nicet Level III* *Northern California Fire Protection Services Inc.* 16840 Joleen Way Bldg. A Morgan Hill, CA 93037 P-(408) 776-1580 EXT.111 F-(408) 776-1590 [email protected] www.norcalfire.com <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.norcalfire.com_&d=DwMGaQ&c=wn3mZQLIuInh2ClcJ0_DIA&r=Z_2A85VL7AQzoqudh6uOyS3bn8etxB7nLN8OBJwQd9A&m=wfwlRznhjdLZAIf7BikjmnzEd5-ExjFyJP97xB__amY&s=ilbMYdUfDRlK1-PWm7RceuVQVBWbgVi6amwntJKzIWA&e=> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This message and any document accompanying it may contain confidential information belonging to the sender. The information is intended only for the use of individual or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible to deliver this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying or taking of any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately notify us by telephone to arrange for return of the documents. *From:* Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *cw bamford *Sent:* Monday, May 07, 2018 7:37 AM *To:* [email protected] *Subject:* Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Drop In Anchors for Seismic Have you looked at DeWalts Mini-Undercut+ anchor is an internally threaded, self-undercutting anchor designed for performance in cracked and uncracked concrete On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Kyle.Montgomery <[email protected]> wrote: So, what did you find, Brad? I've not had luck being able to use drop-ins in seismic areas. Seems like there is always a roadblock with lack of ICC report, or not being acknowledged in COLA (for Los Angeles), or not being appropriate for 'cracked concrete' scenarios. Did you find an avenue that allows them? -Kyle M -----Original Message----- From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Saturday, May 5, 2018 2:43 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Drop In Anchors for Seismic Hello again. I found was I was looking for and it appears my fears were unfounded -- I didn't want to go through all the calculations satisfying 13 only to discover 'nobody makes it'. Like the chicken / egg question -- tc members write rules / manufacturers make things to satisfy rules. I think with sway bracing it is egg / chicken. 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