You are absolutely right, it always helps when you read the entire question and 
don’t jump to a conclusion.  My apologizes for the incorrect information.

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I thought Todd said this was a 2-story building?

I’d use the check valves but more for good ‘engineering practice’.  I’m not 
certain that they are ‘required’, based on the info Todd provided.

Just my opinion.

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I agree. Check valves are required.

John
John August Denhardt, P.E.
Strickland Fire Protection

On Nov 6, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Mike Stossel 
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If I am understanding you question correctly, check valves are required.

8.16.1.5 Floor Control Valve Assemblies.
8.16.1.5.1* Multistory buildings exceeding two stories in height shall be 
provided with a floor control valve, check valve, main drain valve, and flow 
switch for isolation, control, and annunciation of water flow on each floor 
level.

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I am working on an existing two story plus attic wood frame building. The 
engineer is requiring zone control assemblies (butterfly valve plus riser 
manifold) for every level including the attic. I have designed it so there is a 
bull head tee at the top of a 4” riser with the assemblies on either side of 
the tee. Given that the flow switches are going to be in close proximity, 
should I install a check valve between the butterfly valve and the manifold?

Todd G Williams, PE
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