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Cliff Whitfield, SET President Fire Design, Inc. 184 Comfort Place Burnsville, NC 28714 Ph: 828-284-4772 <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <http://www.fire-design.com/> www.fire-design.com From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Skyler Bilbo Sent: Friday, April 5, 2019 2:52 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: EC HSW Under Garage Doors Thanks! I need to buy the 2019 version... I feel like one of those old guys, from when I started in the industry, that quotes older versions because those are the ones I'm most familiar with... I'm not looking forward to learning the new rearranged chapters but I also don't want to be "that guy" who needs to get with the times. Times are definitely changing when a millennial starts having old person dilemmas, haha. Skyler Bilbo On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 1:35 PM Mike B Morey <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: NFPA 2013 2019 - 11.3.2 (8) Extended coverage sprinklers installed to protect areas below a single overhead door(s) that should cover you _____ Mike Morey CFPS 3229 • NICET S.E.T. 123677 Project Manager • Fire Protection Group Shambaugh & Son, LP an EMCOR Company 7614 Opportunity Drive • Fort Wayne, IN • 46825 direct 260.487.7824 / cell 260.417.0625 / fax 260.487.7991 email [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> From: Skyler Bilbo <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Date: 04/05/2019 02:31 PM Subject: EC HSW Under Garage Doors Sent by: "Sprinklerforum" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > _____ BE ADVISED - This email originated outside EMCOR. Is anyone installing EC HSW heads under garage doors? I keep running into 16 ft wide doors (queue jokes: "just open the door"). It would be cheaper to install one EC head rather than a standard spray HSW on each side. I'm looking in the 2013 version of NFPA 13, and I see in 8.4.2 where it allows standard sidewall spray sprinklers under garage doors, which isn't mentioned for the similar section regarding extended coverage sidewall sprinklers. It is mentioned in the EC HSW section: 8.9.5.3.2 that sprinklers are required under obstructions over 4 ft wide such as overhead doors. I'm thinking this is just saying sprinklers are required under the garage door due to the obstruction, but not implying that EC HSW can be used. It seems to me that NFPA is already being "nice" to us by letting us use the Light Hazard spacing for these HSW heads under garage doors and spacing the heads out farther with EC heads is pretty liberal if you are worried about this head ever actually going off in a fire. I would be interested to know if there has been any testing on this. Thanks, Skyler Bilbo_______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.firesprinkler.org_listinfo.cgi_sprinklerforum-2Dfiresprinkler.org&d=DwICAg&c=GKdB6-XpYq_0W-WluyVHtw&r=z4t2hrRBa-JsS06T4X_uuYOSJoclVWgSRO8Nq6TDdsg&m=JfddSnRHvASLscCAQ7fPAc_hWOQTMOTCFlULHkBP3wY&s=MCa_hXG8oPD-5QoSupXxx745eXtTyBzVQhCP6FRC0z8&e=> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__lists.firesprinkler.org_listinfo.cgi_sprinklerforum-2Dfiresprinkler.org&d=DwICAg&c=GKdB6-XpYq_0W-WluyVHtw&r=z4t2hrRBa-JsS06T4X_uuYOSJoclVWgSRO8Nq6TDdsg&m=JfddSnRHvASLscCAQ7fPAc_hWOQTMOTCFlULHkBP3wY&s=MCa_hXG8oPD-5QoSupXxx745eXtTyBzVQhCP6FRC0z8&e= This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. No confidentiality or privilege is waived or lost by any mistransmission. If you receive this message in error, please immediately delete it and all copies of it from your system, destroy any hard copies of it and notify the sender. You must not, directly or indirectly, use, disclose, distribute, print, or copy any part of this message if you are not the intended recipient. _______________________________________________ Sprinklerforum mailing list [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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