I had a wide range of what I expected for fire alarm. There is so much more variety that with spk’s. There’s a reason I got Architect of Record to sign a system design criteria sheet before building permit approval. Then the G.C. had a document with architect and fire plan review’s signature to put out with bid request.
Is initiation primarily manual pull stations, or sprinkler heads/sprinkler water flow switch? Not much reason to provide ceiling details or sections. Smoke detection or heat detection? More information is required. I accepted a statement ‘All ceilings 10’ or less AFF, smooth and level, except as shown’. Notification. Some designers did not want to provide design background noise levels. How do you do acceptance test without stating what design dB above background is. Wire load calc’s. It used to be good practice to add 20% load at EOL. I think this is out of date manufacturing tolerances must be better. Appliances seem to use spec’ed power, no more or less. Some places still require a buffer if more appliances are likely at first T/I. Include cable spec’s. Almost all cable will have less resistance than code minimums. Activation matrix, including signals annunciated on site, and transmitted off site. Best. Bruce Verhei > On Oct 23, 2019, at 17:42, John Drucker via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> wrote: > > 2015 IBC 907.1.2 Shop Drawings is also a good reference list. > > John Drucker > > > From: Sprinklerforum <[email protected]> on > behalf of Parsley Consulting via Sprinklerforum > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2019 14:32 > To: [email protected] > Cc: Parsley Consulting; John Irwin > Subject: Re: Fire Alarm plan checklist > > The most I've seen is from A.3.3.251: > Shop Drawings. Shop drawings typically include the property location, scaled > floor plans, equipment wiring details, typical equipment installation > details, riser details, conduit/conductor size, and routing information > needed to install a fire alarm and/or signaling system. > and in item (3) of A.7.2.1: > (3) Floor plan layout showing locations of all devices, control equipment, > and supervising station and shared communications equipment with each sheet > showing the following: > (a) Point of compass (north arrow) > (b) A graphic representation of the scale used > (c) Room use identification > (d) Building features that will affect the placement of initiating devices > and notification appliances > See also 7.4.5, and 7.4.6: > 7.4.5 Floor plan drawings shall be drawn to an indicated scale and shall > include the following information, where applicable for the particular system: > (1) Floor or level identification > (2) Point of compass (indication of North) > (3) Graphic scale > (4) All walls and doors > (5) All partitions extending to within 15 percent of the ceiling height > (where applicable and when known) > (6) Room and area descriptions > (7) System devices/component locations > (8) Locations of fire alarm primary power disconnecting means > (9) Locations of monitor/control interfaces to other systems > (10) System riser locations > (11) Type and number of system components/devices on each circuit, on each > floor or level > (12) Type and quantity of conductors and conduit (if used) for each circuit > (13) Identification of any ceiling over 10 ft (3.0 m) in height where > automatic fire detection is being proposed > (14) Details of ceiling geometries, including beams and solid joists, where > automatic fire detection is being proposed > (15) Where known, acoustic properties of spaces > 7.4.6 System riser diagrams shall be coordinated with the floor plans and > shall include the following information: > (1) General arrangement of the system in building cross-section > (2) Number of risers > (3) Type and number of circuits in each riser > (4) Type and number of system components/devices on each circuit, on each > floor or level > (5) Number of conductors for each circuit > That is all from the 2016 edition of -72. > Ken Wagoner, SET > Parsley Consulting > 350 West 9th Avenue, Suite 206 > Escondido, California 92025 > Phone 760-745-6181 > Visit the website > >> On 10/23/2019 10:10 AM, John Irwin via Sprinklerforum wrote: >> We have chapter 23 in NFPA 13 that gives us our checklist of what needs to >> be included in our shop drawings. >> >> Is there are similar check list for fire alarms? I don’t see anything in >> NFPA 72 >> >> >> John Irwin >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org > > _______________________________________________ > Sprinklerforum mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org
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