You could put a separate fire pump for each individual riser if you wanted.  It 
would be astronomical in costs so not practical.  But there is nothing stating 
you must boost all risers.  Basically, you have some systems supplied by city 
water on the supply side of the pump and other systems on the discharge side.  
Nothing in any standard I am aware of that prohibits that option.

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Subject: [Sprinklerforum] Re: ESFR Addition

No there is no existing fire pump the existing risers are feed from the city 
water supply. There is a new addition being added to the building which 
requires a ESFR system my question was is there a code that does not allow me 
to tie in to the bottom of one of the existing risers to feed a new fire pump 
that only supply’s the new addition.


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Bobby,

I have to admit I'm sort of baffled here.

If I read this correctly, the discharge flow and pressure from the existing 
fire pump will not supply sufficient flow and pressure to the base of the new 
riser, as required by the K16.8 ESFR sprinklers.

So your thinking is to provide tap the water supply line upstream of the 
existing fire pump, and direct a new service independent of the pump which will 
supply the riser for the new ESFR's.

What troubles me is that if the supply through the pump is inadequate, how 
would the supply without a fire pump be able to achieve the required 
flow/pressure at the base of the riser.

Can you expand on this for me please?

sincerely,
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