2021-09-16 18:35 GMT+02:00, Zbigniew Jachimowicz <[email protected]>: > I admire the people who create Open Source software. And it was not my > intention to discourage them from doing so. I want to make them aware that > the effect of their work would be much better appreciated if there weren't > so many mistakes. Maybe it's better to test the software longer and release > it less often. Sometimes you get the impression that frequent news releases > are a kind of racing, it is not known with whom.
This is what they do but sometimes there are critical bugs that need a quick fix. As I said, software development is quite complex and it has many layers and it has to be tested in many different environments and we are humans and imperfect (and it is ok). Sometimes, these developers do not have a Mac to test some stuff and sometimes changing this has unexpected behaviour in other place and sometimes it is a third party lib that changed whatever and you do not control it. For sure, nobody wants to infuriate you :-) Here you have the repo: https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder You can see there that more than 170 people from all over the world have contributed with code, more people have contributed reporting issues, proposing enhancements,, providing financial support, helping others in the mail list, forums, stackoverflow,... In the link you can see there are windows tests, MacOS tests, Linux tests,... And sometimes, testing a Graphical User interface is tricky. As you can see, it is not an easy task. I've been using Spyder during a lot of time. I have paid licenses for other IDEs and tested other (free or not) IDEs and Spyder is my preferred IDE to develop scientific python. It is a(n imperfect) piece of art. You are angry because something is not perfect and it is right to have an opinion. I just want to provide some context and discuss about that with some context. KR, > > Regards Zbych > > czw., 16 wrz 2021 o 17:52 Kiko <[email protected]> napisał(a): > >> 2021-09-16 15:39 GMT+02:00, Zbigniew Jachimowicz <[email protected]>: >> > And I understand it. But is there anyone who coordinates the Spider >> project >> > and checks before publishing if the change in the program works well >> > with >> > the whole thing? Such quick publication of new versions suggests that >> there >> > is no such person. >> >> I think you do not understand how software development and open source >> works. These people, these heroes, have to test everything against >> windows7, windows8, windows10, linux, MacOS, with different versions >> of python (3.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9, 3.10b), depending on third party libs >> like Qt with python bindings, integration with IPython, with >> profilers, linters,... Most of them (us) do it for free during its >> free time. And yes, sometimes things are not perfect... >> >> Your comment don't solve the issues. Your comment discourage people to >> share. What would be helpful would be to share your comments in a >> constructive way, to support them with money or with code/time fixing >> bugs, communicating new bugs, teaching others how amazing is Spyder >> (IT IS AMAZING), etc. >> >> You are receiving everything this community can offer for free. I >> repeat, for free. This community would be extremely grateful if you >> are part of it sharing their values. >> >> KR, >> >> > >> > czw., 16 wrz 2021 o 11:44 Björn Johansson <[email protected]> >> napisał(a): >> > >> >> Well said! >> >> >> >> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 9:12:24 AM UTC+1 >> >> [email protected] >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> 2021-09-16 9:53 GMT+02:00, Zbigniew Jachimowicz <[email protected]>: >> >>> > I AM SURPRISED OF WHAT THE "SPIDER" PROGRAMMERS DO. They think up >> >>> something >> >>> > and publish it without checking. MICROSOFT DOES ITSELF, RELEASING >> >>> ANOTHER >> >>> > VERSIONS OF WINDOWS. ONLY USERS HAVE TO CHECK WHAT'S WORKING AND >> >>> > WHAT'S >> >>> > NOT. Was he a good idea or not for anything. >> >>> >> >>> Spyder is 100% FREE and OPEN source; there is NO PAID version or >> >>> prohibition on commercial use. It is developed by its international >> >>> USER community, and supported by its users through OpenCollective and >> >>> by its generous sponsoring organizations, including Quansight and >> >>> NumFOCUS. Our source code, standalone installers and most of our >> >>> distribution methods (Pip/PyPI, Linux distros, MacPorts, WinPython, >> >>> etc) can be freely redistributed, used and modified by anyone, for >> >>> any >> >>> purpose, including commercial use. >> >>> >> >>> If you want to improve the situation you could consider donating >> >>> https://opencollective.com/spyder/ >> >>> >> >>> > Best Regards Zbych >> >>> > >> >>> > czw., 16 wrz 2021 o 04:07 Carlos Córdoba <[email protected]> >> >>> napisał(a): >> >>> > >> >>> >> Hi all, >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On the behalf of the Spyder Project Contributors >> >>> >> <https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/graphs/contributors>, I’m >> >>> pleased >> >>> >> to announce that Spyder *5.1.5* has been released and is available >> >>> >> for >> >>> >> Windows, GNU/Linux and MacOS X: >> >>> >> https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/releases >> >>> >> >> >>> >> This release comes three days after version 5.1.4 and it contains >> the >> >>> >> following important fixes: >> >>> >> >> >>> >> - Fix docking of external plugins. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> In this release we fixed 1 issue and merged 3 pull requests that >> >>> amount >> >>> >> to >> >>> >> more than 20 commits. For a full list of fixes, please see our >> >>> Changelog >> >>> >> <https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/blob/5.x/CHANGELOG.md>. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Don’t forget to follow Spyder updates/news on the project’s >> >>> >> website >> >>> >> <https://www.spyder-ide.org>. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Last, but not least, we welcome any contribution that helps making >> >>> Spyder >> >>> >> an efficient scientific development and computing environment. >> >>> >> Join >> >>> >> us >> >>> to >> >>> >> help creating your favorite environment! >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Enjoy! >> >>> >> Carlos >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> -- >> >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>> Groups >> >>> >> "spyder" group. >> >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> >>> >> send >> >>> an >> >>> >> email to [email protected]. >> >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>> >> >> >>> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/a546a347-2792-43fa-aeaf-020c39db4211%40gmail.com >> >>> >> < >> >>> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/a546a347-2792-43fa-aeaf-020c39db4211%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >> > >> >>> >> >>> >> . >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> > -- >> >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> >>> Groups >> >>> > "spyder" group. >> >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send >> >>> an >> >>> > email to [email protected]. >> >>> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> >>> > >> >>> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/CAG-5EvJZMeE3C39Gr%3DTBq6N6enYVJCDLdtTjE2sLFFwz7QqSCQ%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> >>> >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups >> >> "spyder" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an >> >> email to [email protected]. >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> >> >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/7c72fc96-b932-4248-9011-626c4ae1bb7en%40googlegroups.com >> >> < >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/7c72fc96-b932-4248-9011-626c4ae1bb7en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer >> > >> >> . >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups >> > "spyder" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> > an >> > email to [email protected]. >> > To view this discussion on the web visit >> > >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/CAG-5EvJUNmLGZkgQGBPBsjpzhkMhhHLxz81krjYqP6WSEgiUiA%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "spyder" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/CAB-sx61sx%2BynDNGtmk5QVFOOStiC3Hhm4dpaRneSVD1WJ1aAOg%40mail.gmail.com >> . >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "spyder" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/CAG-5EvKFhVRFjKhMbmgiZf_UvCrT3tL4wAhFd4BrwQ08xA1_Sg%40mail.gmail.com. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "spyder" group. 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