I was wondering about the release policy of the Spyder project lately as well - releases seem to have gotten more frequent (including "post-fixes"). But the important point to me is that there are versions that run fine on the platforms I use and have all I need. So the easiest thing to do in my opinion is: don't just upgrade for upgrading's sake. It's not Windows, nobody forces you. Upgrade if you want to try a new feature. Upgrade if it's an important security fix. I'm pretty satisfied with that strategy.
So Spyder-team, keep up the good work! cheers F [email protected] schrieb am Donnerstag, 16. September 2021 um 19:23:36 UTC+2: > 2021-09-16 18:35 GMT+02:00, Zbigniew Jachimowicz <[email protected]>: > > I admire the people who create Open Source software. And it was not my > > intention to discourage them from doing so. I want to make them aware > that > > the effect of their work would be much better appreciated if there > weren't > > so many mistakes. Maybe it's better to test the software longer and > release > > it less often. Sometimes you get the impression that frequent news > releases > > are a kind of racing, it is not known with whom. > > This is what they do but sometimes there are critical bugs that need a > quick fix. As I said, software development is quite complex and it has > many layers and it has to be tested in many different environments and > we are humans and imperfect (and it is ok). Sometimes, these > developers do not have a Mac to test some stuff and sometimes changing > this has unexpected behaviour in other place and sometimes it is a > third party lib that changed whatever and you do not control it. For > sure, nobody wants to infuriate you :-) > > Here you have the repo: https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder > You can see there that more than 170 people from all over the world > have contributed with code, more people have contributed reporting > issues, proposing enhancements,, providing financial support, helping > others in the mail list, forums, stackoverflow,... In the link you can > see there are windows tests, MacOS tests, Linux tests,... And > sometimes, testing a Graphical User interface is tricky. As you can > see, it is not an easy task. > > I've been using Spyder during a lot of time. I have paid licenses for > other IDEs and tested other (free or not) IDEs and Spyder is my > preferred IDE to develop scientific python. It is a(n imperfect) piece > of art. > > You are angry because something is not perfect and it is right to have > an opinion. I just want to provide some context and discuss about that > with some context. > > KR, > > > > > Regards Zbych > > > > czw., 16 wrz 2021 o 17:52 Kiko <[email protected]> napisał(a): > > > >> 2021-09-16 15:39 GMT+02:00, Zbigniew Jachimowicz <[email protected]>: > >> > And I understand it. But is there anyone who coordinates the Spider > >> project > >> > and checks before publishing if the change in the program works well > >> > with > >> > the whole thing? Such quick publication of new versions suggests that > >> there > >> > is no such person. > >> > >> I think you do not understand how software development and open source > >> works. These people, these heroes, have to test everything against > >> windows7, windows8, windows10, linux, MacOS, with different versions > >> of python (3.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.9, 3.10b), depending on third party libs > >> like Qt with python bindings, integration with IPython, with > >> profilers, linters,... Most of them (us) do it for free during its > >> free time. And yes, sometimes things are not perfect... > >> > >> Your comment don't solve the issues. Your comment discourage people to > >> share. What would be helpful would be to share your comments in a > >> constructive way, to support them with money or with code/time fixing > >> bugs, communicating new bugs, teaching others how amazing is Spyder > >> (IT IS AMAZING), etc. > >> > >> You are receiving everything this community can offer for free. I > >> repeat, for free. This community would be extremely grateful if you > >> are part of it sharing their values. > >> > >> KR, > >> > >> > > >> > czw., 16 wrz 2021 o 11:44 Björn Johansson <[email protected]> > >> napisał(a): > >> > > >> >> Well said! > >> >> > >> >> On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 9:12:24 AM UTC+1 > >> >> [email protected] > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> 2021-09-16 9:53 GMT+02:00, Zbigniew Jachimowicz <[email protected] > >: > >> >>> > I AM SURPRISED OF WHAT THE "SPIDER" PROGRAMMERS DO. They think up > >> >>> something > >> >>> > and publish it without checking. MICROSOFT DOES ITSELF, RELEASING > >> >>> ANOTHER > >> >>> > VERSIONS OF WINDOWS. ONLY USERS HAVE TO CHECK WHAT'S WORKING AND > >> >>> > WHAT'S > >> >>> > NOT. Was he a good idea or not for anything. > >> >>> > >> >>> Spyder is 100% FREE and OPEN source; there is NO PAID version or > >> >>> prohibition on commercial use. It is developed by its international > >> >>> USER community, and supported by its users through OpenCollective > and > >> >>> by its generous sponsoring organizations, including Quansight and > >> >>> NumFOCUS. Our source code, standalone installers and most of our > >> >>> distribution methods (Pip/PyPI, Linux distros, MacPorts, WinPython, > >> >>> etc) can be freely redistributed, used and modified by anyone, for > >> >>> any > >> >>> purpose, including commercial use. > >> >>> > >> >>> If you want to improve the situation you could consider donating > >> >>> https://opencollective.com/spyder/ > >> >>> > >> >>> > Best Regards Zbych > >> >>> > > >> >>> > czw., 16 wrz 2021 o 04:07 Carlos Córdoba <[email protected]> > >> >>> napisał(a): > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> Hi all, > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> On the behalf of the Spyder Project Contributors > >> >>> >> <https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/graphs/contributors>, I’m > >> >>> pleased > >> >>> >> to announce that Spyder *5.1.5* has been released and is > available > >> >>> >> for > >> >>> >> Windows, GNU/Linux and MacOS X: > >> >>> >> https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/releases > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> This release comes three days after version 5.1.4 and it contains > >> the > >> >>> >> following important fixes: > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> - Fix docking of external plugins. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> In this release we fixed 1 issue and merged 3 pull requests that > >> >>> amount > >> >>> >> to > >> >>> >> more than 20 commits. For a full list of fixes, please see our > >> >>> Changelog > >> >>> >> <https://github.com/spyder-ide/spyder/blob/5.x/CHANGELOG.md>. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Don’t forget to follow Spyder updates/news on the project’s > >> >>> >> website > >> >>> >> <https://www.spyder-ide.org>. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Last, but not least, we welcome any contribution that helps > making > >> >>> Spyder > >> >>> >> an efficient scientific development and computing environment. > >> >>> >> Join > >> >>> >> us > >> >>> to > >> >>> >> help creating your favorite environment! > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Enjoy! > >> >>> >> Carlos > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> -- > >> >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the > Google > >> >>> Groups > >> >>> >> "spyder" group. > >> >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >> >>> >> send > >> >>> an > >> >>> >> email to [email protected]. > >> >>> >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> >>> >> > >> >>> > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/a546a347-2792-43fa-aeaf-020c39db4211%40gmail.com > >> >>> >> < > >> >>> > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/a546a347-2792-43fa-aeaf-020c39db4211%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >> > > >> >>> > >> >>> >> . > >> >>> >> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > -- > >> >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >>> Groups > >> >>> > "spyder" group. > >> >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >> send > >> >>> an > >> >>> > email to [email protected]. > >> >>> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/CAG-5EvJZMeE3C39Gr%3DTBq6N6enYVJCDLdtTjE2sLFFwz7QqSCQ%40mail.gmail.com > >> . > >> >>> > >> >>> > > >> >>> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups > >> >> "spyder" group. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >> an > >> >> email to [email protected]. > >> >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> >> > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/7c72fc96-b932-4248-9011-626c4ae1bb7en%40googlegroups.com > >> >> < > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/7c72fc96-b932-4248-9011-626c4ae1bb7en%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer > >> > > >> >> . > >> >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "spyder" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> > an > >> > email to [email protected]. > >> > To view this discussion on the web visit > >> > > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/CAG-5EvJUNmLGZkgQGBPBsjpzhkMhhHLxz81krjYqP6WSEgiUiA%40mail.gmail.com > >> . > >> > > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "spyder" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to [email protected]. > >> To view this discussion on the web visit > >> > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/CAB-sx61sx%2BynDNGtmk5QVFOOStiC3Hhm4dpaRneSVD1WJ1aAOg%40mail.gmail.com > >> . > >> > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "spyder" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to [email protected]. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/spyderlib/CAG-5EvKFhVRFjKhMbmgiZf_UvCrT3tL4wAhFd4BrwQ08xA1_Sg%40mail.gmail.com > . > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "spyder" group. 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