On Wed, Oct 16, 2002 at 11:18:12AM +0100, Scott Taylor wrote:
> There are 6 httpd threads running (1 root and 5 scott).

Yeah. You run httpd as root and it SUID into scott.

> I had a previous sql-ledger in /usr/local/www/sql-ledger and only
> this has a members directory. The current /usr/local/sql-ledger has
> none...if it should then why hasn't this come from the install?  

That tells me that there's something to do with the configuration file
you haven't disclosed.

> There is more than one httpd file but I don't think this is a
> problem because when I run httpd -v it returns the correct apache
> version.

This is so weird. You mean to tell me that you installed different
versions of httpd, too? It sounds like you tried to do a custom
compile of apache (without cleaning up the old copy?). Exactly what
distro are you using?

> Unfortunately, this is a stand alone system and I have nothing to
> compare it. I really love using SQL Ledger but the installation
> process is one of the worse I have seen in Linux (I have installed
> this 3 times over the last year and always have major problems)

By "I really love using SQL Ledger" I can assume you've used
SQL-ledger before. Was that system working? Would you be able to
access your friend (?) system and check out how it's set up? Would you
be able to copy those files and clean out the old stuff?

Keep in mind that your httpd.conf might be pointing to the copy of
/usr/local/sql-ledger which has none. Your logs alternate between
permission denied and a none-existant directory which suggests a
confusion between those directories. I don't know how you got an
installation that doesn't have a members directory, though it is
required if you want to actually use it. 

As for your comment about the installation process of SQL-ledger and
linux ... that gets into some deep existential philosophy that
ultimatey, if you want personal freedom, you pay with personal
responsibility: Microsoft gets the chum to cough up money because the
chum thinks he will have his hands held, even if it's not true. If
you're going to be quirky about it and don't want to pay for it,
you're on your own.

My persional opinion is that you and computers have bad vibes, and
they simply refuse to cooperate. The computers prefer being rude, and are
generally obnoxious to you, but that sounds too wishy-washy for
something that's ostensibly the pentultimate in logical determinism.
Even if anthromorphosizing the computer is still true :-) 

Scott, I've seen several people telling you exactly what you can do,
including the magical ritual of making httpd run under apache:apache,
(called, 'taking the defaults', especially if you're running a
well-put-together distro like Redhat or Debian) and I've told you that
it works for more reasons other than security.  But you're set in your
ways and assume that there must be some logical way to get what you
want to do to work -- and there is -- that kind of tinkering is beyond
the scope of the "basics" and require some empathy (yes, empathy) for
the computer, in order to grasp the system as a whole. It's the kind
of stuff that professional people are willing to get paid for. If you
want, you can ship the computer to my address, and I can fix it up for
you, including running it under the quirky scott:scott, and I'll send
it back to you in working order with a bill for $100/hr of my time,
and shipping costs. I'm sure there's others on this group who's
willing to do that for much less. 

Otherwise, you have two options: (1) install a fresh copy of Apache
(and if you're using redhat, that means doing "rpm -ivh
apache-packagename.rpm", and if you're using Debian, that means
"apt-get install httpd" and NOT a custom compile, because it seems to
me you're not skilled enough for that), running under nobody/nobody or
apache/apache, and if it STILL doesn't work, and you've exhausted the
README and the docs, then I'm sure more people will warm up to your
plight. 

Or, (2) give up, and run a copy of Quickbooks. 

-Qaexl-

http://www.next-horizons.com/qaexl/


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