Oleg Broytmann wrote:
> Hello!
> 
> On Mon, Oct 09, 2006 at 03:16:01AM +0300, Ilias Lazaridis wrote:
>> I have decided to not use SqlObject [1].
> 
>    Thank you for stopping by and for your valuable contribution.
> Unfortunately you observations are a bit biased. Let me show another point
> of view.

ok

>> What the project should possibly do:
>>
>> * Create a new mailinglist (e.g. on Google Groups), thus the 
>> spam-problem is reduced.
> 
>    There is no any "spam-problem". In 10 days of October there were 18
> messages in the mailing list, only two of them were spam. No problem here,
> a little annoyance at best.

I see >10 spam messages within the gmane archive (which means more spam 
than messages)

>    On the other hand asking a hundred of people to resubscribe would be a
> real pain.

very simple:

* Anoounce that the group will move on day x
* create a google group.
* announce (on the list) that people should subscribe to the list
* switch to the google group
* remember to update gmane to get the google email

>> * The remaining developers should focus
> 
>    They should not. There are a lot of tasks in our TODO, some bigger, some
> smaller. SQLObject is being used in free and proprietary applications, so
> these tasks are real tasks. No need to invent tasks nobody is interested in.

One of the most important points within development is:

knowing when to stop.

possibly this point is reached for SQLObject, not sure yet, see below.

>> * The project should move away from sourceforge. Trac provides nice 
>> functionality for small to medium scale open source projects.
> 
>    Absolutely! This time I agree with you 100%! Please install Trac at your
> hosting provider and be our Trac admin. Import the data from the SF
> tracker. You don't need to do it manually - there are tools for automatic
> import.
>    When you are ready - send instructions how to register and where to
> login.

I provide such services, commercially:

http://dev.lazaridis.com/base/wiki/CommercialServices

Although I _would_ possibly provide this for free for SQLObject, but I 
should see some activity, see below.

>> * At a minimum, the project should inform potential users about the low 
>> activity on the SQLObject project.
> 
>    May be activity here is so low there is nobody who really can make such
> a warning. ;) Or may be activity is high enough there is no need in any
> false warning.
> 
> 2All: Many thanks to all good people who have expressed support!

May I suggest that you move over to google groups (= mailinglist with 
good spamfilter, web-interface, search-functionality).

This has the additional benefit of giving sqlobject some more visibility.

Having an communication-resource again, I would the want to implement 
the schema-evolution support (in cooperation with the existent people here).

If things go fine with 0.7.2 (including basic evolution support), I 
would then provide the setup of the trac-infrastructure (_possibly_ I 
could provide the hosting, too)

How does this sound?

.

-- 
http://lazaridis.com


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