On 10/10/06, Ilias Lazaridis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oleg Broytmann wrote: > > Hello. > > > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2006 at 03:55:34AM +0300, Ilias Lazaridis wrote: > >> I see >10 spam messages within the gmane archive (which means more spam > >> than messages) > > > > At http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.sqlobject I see one spam > > message in about every ten SQLObject message. A bit annoying but certainly > > far from "more spam than messages". > > ok, then: more spam topics than real topics. > > Do you really have to discuss this? > > The list is amateurish. > news flash amateur today is many times better then corporate.
and spam is spam your changing the topic here, if you really want something you will get it. lists are lists they are emails going back and forth it's no measure of the quality of the project. much less of the code of the project. > >>> On the other hand asking a hundred of people to resubscribe would be a > >>> real pain. > >> very simple: > >> > >> * Anoounce that the group will move on day x > >> * create a google group. > >> * announce (on the list) that people should subscribe to the list > >> * switch to the google group > >> * remember to update gmane to get the google email > > > > What to do with people who will be more annoyed by the switch than by > > the spam? with people who will decide that the switch isn't worth the > > trouble and will leave the community? "Ignore" is not an option, IMO. > > You should think more about _new_ people which like to join the project. > > when looking at the archives, they see more spam threads the development > threds. > then write a plugin/extension/etc for the mailing list software this is help a LOT of opensource groups, instead of avoiding the real problem. > Really nice impression. > > Who would join a project seeing such a list? > noone goes to the list they download the code and check it out, they go to the website and just then (if ever) go to the mailing list. > >> One of the most important points within development is: > >> > >> knowing when to stop. > >> FUD > You've ommitted the central par of my message: > > [REQUOTE] > I provide such services, commercially: > > http://dev.lazaridis.com/base/wiki/CommercialServices > > Although I _would_ possibly provide this for free for SQLObject, but I > should see some activity, see below. > I'll do it for free to SO. > > May I suggest that you move over to google groups (= mailinglist with > good spamfilter, web-interface, search-functionality). > > This has the additional benefit of giving sqlobject some more visibility. > that's ridiculous noone browsers googlegroup looking for projects.... > Having an communication-resource again, I would the want to implement > the schema-evolution support (in cooperation with the existent people here). > > If things go fine with 0.7.2 (including basic evolution support), I > would then provide the setup of the trac-infrastructure (_possibly_ I > could provide the hosting, too) dude please read your replies 0.7.2 will be bug fix only ANY new features aka evolution support will go in 0.8 on the other hand I don't see why you have to precondition your support... > > How does this sound? show me the code. > [/REQUOTE] > > So, i've offered to contribute a basic schema-evolution-support to > SQLObject (for version 0.8) _and_ a setup of a trac based infrastructure > and (possibly) the hosting, too. > > I ask the project just to get control over this "more spam-threads than > content-threads" problem, (_one_ solution: move to google groups). > > . > > -- > http://lazaridis.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT > Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your > opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash > http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV > _______________________________________________ > sqlobject-discuss mailing list > sqlobject-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sqlobject-discuss > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys -- and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV _______________________________________________ sqlobject-discuss mailing list sqlobject-discuss@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/sqlobject-discuss
