mfaine;607934 Wrote:
> No, he certainly did not. I am new to SB and I can definitely relate.
> The entire user community seems bound and determined to confuse and
> obfuscate. There doesn't seem to be any reliable software other than
> the server software. What software there is, isn't documented very
> well, if at all, is out-of-date or both labeled "beta" and out-of-date,
> which really shouldn't be possible. Woefully out of-date documentation
> exists and is sometimes even updated for new versions without removing
> out-of-date information which leads to a mish-mash of new and old
> information together. And then there is the seemingly unending
> variations of Squeeze*, Slim*, Jive*, naming of resources. There needs
> to be one single source for all current Squeezebox related resources and
> user communities. All of the old stuff should be expunged or at least
> very clearly segregated and labeled as obsolete and outdated.
>
> There seems to be no verification of third-party plug-ins for proper
> operation. A surprising number of which don't work or have been
> superseded by new (read duplicate) versions that aren't available
> unless you know what custom repository to add. Even worse, I'm willing
> to be to bet someone could put a third-party plug-in up that contains
> malware and we wouldn't know until it was too late. The Squeezeplay
> software doesn't work, plain and simple. The correct way to do it
> would be to make the release version of SqueezePlay supported and
> available from the same download location where users can download the
> server software. The client and entire plug-in system should be
> reworked from the ground up. Its a mess.
>
> The hardware, so far, has functioned well and maybe that says something
> about Logitech's ultimate goal. Their actions and my experiences so far
> might lead one to think they are actively discouraging any active user
> community or software tools.
>
> Logitech really needs to step it up. I'll be sending this message to
> their support as well.
>
> Sorry to hijack your thread BillLogi but I needed to get this off my
> chest too.
I find this forum community to be one of the most helpful I've dealt
with in 20+ years of using internet "interest group" connections. Lots
of issues get handled very well by users helping each other. Users get
more help typically when they provide useful info about their setups,
etc. People that come here to just rant ("All this stuff is crap")
don't get much help but they're really not asking for help. But even in
some of these caes I've seen 100s of very helpful threads where users
stick with the original poster to help solve problems.
I've used SqueezePlay for two years to control my other SB hardware
players and as a "player" on my laptop. It has been rock solid, despite
being BETA. So I'm not sure what problem you're having. But post your
questions and I'm sure you'll get answers.
I'm not sure I understand your point about "no reliable software other
than the server software." Of course, one has to use the server
software. That's how the thing works. You have 3 choices for a server.
Your own (running SbS), the "cloud" server (mysqueezebox.com), or the
"tiny SbS" inside the TOUCH (a limited server). I use SbS in one
location and mysb.com in another. I have a transporter, several
Touches, several booms, and I've had the duet and SB3 (now retired). I
go months and months with rock solid setup and have rarely had any
issues (that I didn't cause with a network issue unrelated to SB). And
I use most of Erland's plugins and SDT plugin and they work
beautifully.
Bottom line, my SB setup at two different locations is more stable than
my Comcast or Cox cable TV, my computer network at work (a very large
organization with dedicated IT folks), etc. Just to be clear, I'm not
suggesting that there aren't bugs, problems, etc. There certainly are.
My personal experience on this forum is that 90% of the problems are
the user's network not being robust (which they may not discover until
trying to stream music or video). Another 5% is bad tagging on files.
But I think it is unfair to suggest that the software is "junk" and
nothing really works properly. It all works properly for me and for
many people. The forum users are actually here to help others diagnose
issues and offer solutions. And this does work based on my experience
here.
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