I have lurked on this list for well over a year and have watched Sam become
more terse (understandably) as the same questions with well documented
answers are asked again and again. Watch this list for a month and count how
many times someone asks about virtual templates or mail filtering (all are
well documented). Step in his shoes for a minute and you might understand.
Kindest Regards to All
Phil Z.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mathew Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Charlie Watts'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "'Pichit Jiw'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:13 AM
Subject: RE: please unsubscribe me
> Hi Charlie,
>
> Charlie, I have more respect to you both in terms of technical knowledge
and
> your willingness to help others. But you and I have the liberty to have
> different opinions on the subject of this topic.
>
> People are there with different kinds of abilities. We cannot expect
> everyone to be at par with our knowledge level. Perhaps if they had enough
> knowledge about Sqwebmail, they would not have been around in the mailing
> list related to Sqwebmail. Because everyone is busy one way or the other
> way.
>
> The person who wants to be out of this mailing list did not know how to
> unsubscribe. May be due to his lack of knowledge. If I am very busy, I
could
> ignore his message. But if I bother to send him a reply, either directly
or
> through this mailing list, then it should be a helping reply and NOT a
> ridiculing reply. It doesn't make sense to say that one have the time to
> ridicule him but no time to help!!
>
> As I said in the beginning, everyone has the liberty to form different
> opinions. I have a totally different opinion about what the creator of the
> Postfix MTA (Wietse Venema) would have responded to the message from
"Pichit
> Jiw". You don't have to agree or disagree with me. In any case, let us
take
> this discussion out of this mailing list. Every member of this mailing
list
> has a busy life and a busy schedule (relative to one's life). I am sending
> this reply to the list, because you indicated (in a second mail) that the
> direct mail you sent me got rejected. Let us talk privately if we need to
> talk about it further.
>
> Regards,
> Mathew Simon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Charlie Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:51 AM
> To: Mathew Simon
> Cc: 'Pichit Jiw'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: please unsubscribe me
>
>
> On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Mathew Simon wrote:
>
> > Please be aware that you are dealing with a person who is thinking
> > that he is a little bigger in life than what he really is, because he
> > wrote a couple of software. Usually humbleness, humility and the
> > willingness to help less knowledgeable people are the byproduct of
> > real knowledge. For the short time I am subscribed to this mailing
> > list, I am only seeing bloated pride and the resultant arrogance.
> >
> > I am forwarding to you in a separate mail, the instructions I received
> > when I subscribed to this mailing list. It contains info on how to
> > unsubscribe.
> >
> > If you still need further help, please feel free to contact me.
>
> Do be careful here.
>
> Sam has written some nice software, and released to the general public. It
> is not his -responsibility- to provide any support at all.
>
> His answers have always been direct, succinct, and accurate. I would
> consider him to be very helpful.
>
> There is tons of free software out there with -no- support.
>
> My impression: Sam is very busy, and though he spends time to answer
> direct questions about how things work, or how to fix errors, he does not
> have time to teach the basics of *nix or to hand-hold folks through
> setting up things.
>
> It is easy to feel slighted by a gruff response - I've asked some stupid
> questions, and he responded quickly, tersely, but -correctly-. And that
> was worth more to me than hand-holding would have been.
>
> Please keep in mind, too, how obnoxious it is when people sign up for
> lists and then cannot save the information about how they subscribed, and
> how to unsubscribe. Some of us are on many list, and see quite a few of
> those messages every day.
>
> Sam doesn't run the list. He said so. Why do you expect him to spend time
> finding the documentation for how to unsubscribe - when YOU are unwilling
> to do the same? (Not you, Mathew)
>
> --
> Charlie Watts
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
