Well, if some mail filtering guru just could make a filter that lets ezmlm
automatically reply to these common questions, no one would be irritated no
more...
m�ndagen den 9 juli 2001 16:02 skrev Phil Zamarripa:
> I have lurked on this list for well over a year and have watched Sam become
> more terse (understandably) as the same questions with well documented
> answers are asked again and again. Watch this list for a month and count
> how many times someone asks about virtual templates or mail filtering (all
> are well documented). Step in his shoes for a minute and you might
> understand.
>
> Kindest Regards to All
>
> Phil Z.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mathew Simon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Charlie Watts'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "'Pichit Jiw'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 8:13 AM
> Subject: RE: please unsubscribe me
>
> > Hi Charlie,
> >
> > Charlie, I have more respect to you both in terms of technical knowledge
>
> and
>
> > your willingness to help others. But you and I have the liberty to have
> > different opinions on the subject of this topic.
> >
> > People are there with different kinds of abilities. We cannot expect
> > everyone to be at par with our knowledge level. Perhaps if they had
> > enough knowledge about Sqwebmail, they would not have been around in the
> > mailing list related to Sqwebmail. Because everyone is busy one way or
> > the other way.
> >
> > The person who wants to be out of this mailing list did not know how to
> > unsubscribe. May be due to his lack of knowledge. If I am very busy, I
>
> could
>
> > ignore his message. But if I bother to send him a reply, either directly
>
> or
>
> > through this mailing list, then it should be a helping reply and NOT a
> > ridiculing reply. It doesn't make sense to say that one have the time to
> > ridicule him but no time to help!!
> >
> > As I said in the beginning, everyone has the liberty to form different
> > opinions. I have a totally different opinion about what the creator of
> > the Postfix MTA (Wietse Venema) would have responded to the message from
>
> "Pichit
>
> > Jiw". You don't have to agree or disagree with me. In any case, let us
>
> take
>
> > this discussion out of this mailing list. Every member of this mailing
>
> list
>
> > has a busy life and a busy schedule (relative to one's life). I am
> > sending this reply to the list, because you indicated (in a second mail)
> > that the direct mail you sent me got rejected. Let us talk privately if
> > we need to talk about it further.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Mathew Simon
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Charlie Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 12:51 AM
> > To: Mathew Simon
> > Cc: 'Pichit Jiw'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: please unsubscribe me
> >
> > On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Mathew Simon wrote:
> > > Please be aware that you are dealing with a person who is thinking
> > > that he is a little bigger in life than what he really is, because he
> > > wrote a couple of software. Usually humbleness, humility and the
> > > willingness to help less knowledgeable people are the byproduct of
> > > real knowledge. For the short time I am subscribed to this mailing
> > > list, I am only seeing bloated pride and the resultant arrogance.
> > >
> > > I am forwarding to you in a separate mail, the instructions I received
> > > when I subscribed to this mailing list. It contains info on how to
> > > unsubscribe.
> > >
> > > If you still need further help, please feel free to contact me.
> >
> > Do be careful here.
> >
> > Sam has written some nice software, and released to the general public.
> > It is not his -responsibility- to provide any support at all.
> >
> > His answers have always been direct, succinct, and accurate. I would
> > consider him to be very helpful.
> >
> > There is tons of free software out there with -no- support.
> >
> > My impression: Sam is very busy, and though he spends time to answer
> > direct questions about how things work, or how to fix errors, he does not
> > have time to teach the basics of *nix or to hand-hold folks through
> > setting up things.
> >
> > It is easy to feel slighted by a gruff response - I've asked some stupid
> > questions, and he responded quickly, tersely, but -correctly-. And that
> > was worth more to me than hand-holding would have been.
> >
> > Please keep in mind, too, how obnoxious it is when people sign up for
> > lists and then cannot save the information about how they subscribed, and
> > how to unsubscribe. Some of us are on many list, and see quite a few of
> > those messages every day.
> >
> > Sam doesn't run the list. He said so. Why do you expect him to spend time
> > finding the documentation for how to unsubscribe - when YOU are unwilling
> > to do the same? (Not you, Mathew)
> >
> > --
> > Charlie Watts
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Regards // Oden Eriksson
Kvikkjokk Networks
