...ment to give you IP's new address...

http://www.ipengineering.co.uk/page63.html

Hope you can get it all sorted...Tony


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Small-scale live steam discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [SSLiveSteam] DisassemblingI.P. Engineering Jane/Mamod 
Cylinders


> Hi Steve,
>
> The IP cylinders are nicely made...I could never make anything that works 
> as
> fine But...
>
> When I first get the cylinders look in the ends of the distribution block 
> I
> have had them were they are partially blocked with brass scarf...careful
> twidle with a suitable size drill does great things for the running
> properties
>
> ...also I put all my new IP cylinders in a contaier with some dish soap 
> and
> pump them a few times under the water surface...all sorts of bits and 
> metal
> filings can be found in the bottom of the container upon removal of the
> cylinder...then oil them up and you are ready to go.
>
> IP replacement "O" rings are made of a high temp red material...I belive 
> the
> originals in mine were a grey/black colour...the originals in mine wore to 
> a
> "D" section...that is the surface sliding on the cylinder walls was worn
> flatish...my friend and I got a bunch of the new reds and really like the
> sealing properties...IP were aware that some of the old "O" rings were
> wearing...I have replaced the "O" rings in all my IP's when they have come
> due for service. Most of my cylinders have many hours of steaming.
>
> ...you may have a good seal with oil but steam is a whole different
> thing...I have had locos run sweet on air but horrible on steam.
>
> That little step in the cylinder has me pondering...unless the "O" ring 
> had
> completely wore down to metal??   ....an abrupt step me thinks was a 
> glitch
> in the original machining...maybe the bore tool picked in the machining.
>
> ...is it all the way around on the inside with a sharp step? ...if it is I
> would get in touch with IP for the last word on that...sounds like the 
> step
> is cutting the "O" rings...I think it is a manufacturing problem...they 
> are
> nice folks...upon hearing the problem they just might ship you a new
> cylinder.
>
> ...also they make the 1/8" "O" rings for the Reversing valve...the old 
> black
> ones go hard and flat...they stay sealed but if you take out the steam 
> pipes
> for any reason a leak is a for sure...there new replacement ones are 
> springy
> red like the cylinder ones...and they stay springy ...I have red ones in 
> all
> mine and my friends wobblers.
>
> Have you had them from new...if not then someone might have been in there?
>
> Tony
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Small-scale live steam discussions" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 8:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [SSLiveSteam] DisassemblingI.P. Engineering Jane/Mamod
> Cylinders
>
>
>> With all the expert advice I got the cylinder disassembled without 
>> mishap.
>> To tap out the cylinder end I did use a correctly-threaded screw to clamp
>> the cylinder to an aluminum plate that I clamped in the vise. A small
>> piece of brass strip was wedged between the cylinder and the vise jaw to
>> bear the force of the hammer blows.
>>
>> Inside the cylinder were both brass shavings and threads of black
>> material - probably oil-saturated o-ring shavings. After cleaning up, the
>> piston, with liberal oil, would seal as well as the other cylinder, at
>> least at one end.
>>
>> The cylinder bore is ribbed from machining, and when looking carefully a
>> very slight step in the bore diameter can be seen about 1/2" down.
>> Probably no more than a few ten thousandths, but it can be seen
>> distinctly.
>>
>> Now I'm debating whether to try to polish out the machining marks, and
>> hopefully reduce the step in the bore, or to leave well enough alone. I
>> will fit a new o-ring for sure. And I'll check its fit before doing any
>> polishing.
>>
>> Thank you for the posting the deWinton photo, Tony. When I get mine all
>> back together I'll post a photo of it, too.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
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