I built an Aster Sterling Single kit for a friend a while back that had the 
same setup.  The draft was so strong it pulled the flame well into the 
boiler tubes and almost sounded like a gas burner!  Sorry but I don't 
remember what distance the wick tubes are from the boiler but I think too 
close is much more of a problem then too far away.

Kindest Regards,
PeteH

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Shyvers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Small-scale live steam discussions" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [SSLiveSteam] Alcohol Firing a Standard Roundhouse Butane 
Boiler


> Kevin and Lord Geoff,
>
> This is only the Mark 1 model!  Doesn't even have wheels fitted! Still 
> some
> work to do before it rolls under its own steam.
>
> Lord Geoff:  can you tell me what the clearance should be between the top 
> of
> the wick tubes and the boiler or crown sheet in a typical gauge 1 boiler?
> Right now I think I have to much clearance - perhaps 25mm - between the 
> wick
> tubes and the bottom of the boiler.
>
> Steve
>
>
> On 4/23/07, Kevin Schindler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> Steve,
>> Well done! I too have been thinking about this for a few years, but like
>> Vance, I never did anything about it. I have 4 RH gas fired jobs plus one
>> Lady Anne Chassis and Boiler Kit in the waiting. That kit project maybe a
>> good place to apply your new found technology. I would love to have at
>> least
>> alcohol fired locomotive. Variety is the spice, don't cha know.
>>
>> Please bring your work down to Sacramento this July, I want to give it a
>> good look. Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Kevin
>> Estancia Fortuna
>> www.narrowescape.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Steve Shyvers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Small-scale live steam discussions" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 7:23 AM
>> Subject: [SSLiveSteam] Alcohol Firing a Standard Roundhouse Butane Boiler
>>
>>
>> > Succeeded yesterday with a successful experiment to alcohol-fire a
>> > Roundhouse single-flue butane boiler. It was a bench test using a 
>> > simple
>> > add-on firebox and a two-wick burner. No fancy calculations involved.
>> Most
>> > dimensions guesstimated. This first test with little more than a 
>> > mock-up
>> > of
>> > an external firebox blew the safety after not too many minutes and
>> simply
>> > amazed me. My last two loco projects were not brilliant in the firing
>> > department until after a lot of experimentation and rebuilding.
>> >
>> > The firebox was fabricated from olive oil can sheet metal and
>> > silver-brazed.
>> > It fits under the aft 50mm of the boiler, and an extension wraps up
>> around
>> > the back of the boiler to connect the firebox to the existing single
>> flue.
>> > The wicks are positioned below the boiler's aft end, which makes the
>> > boiler
>> > a C-type. Right now the boiler wrapper is holding the firebox onto the
>> > boiler by means of flanges along the upper edges of the firebox that 
>> > are
>> > slipped under the wrapper before it's cinched tight. Properly it should
>> > have
>> > a more secure method of mounting, and there should be some sort of
>> sealant
>> > to prevent leaks that might interfere with the draft.
>> >
>> > The burner's two wick holders are each 11mm inside dia and 20mm deep
>> > inside
>> > (fabricated from std copper pipe and pipe caps.) The wick holders are
>> > spaced
>> > 20mm apart. I did a proper job and silver-brazed the burner and fuel
>> sump
>> > assemblies.  The idea was that if the experiment were a success, then
>> > these
>> > parts would be good for the final version and not need to be made 
>> > again.
>> > Otherwise they could be re-used in some other project.
>> >
>> > To create a draft for the fire I rigged a blast nozzle in the smokebox
>> > (standard Roundhouse) and fed it with an air jet from a garden sprayer
>> > that's been setup as a low-pressure compressed air supply. The blast
>> > nozzle
>> > was positioned below the narrowest part of the stack a distance equal 
>> > to
>> > the
>> > three times the stack's narrowest inside diameter. The nozzle height is
>> > adjustable, and some experimentation must be done for the optimal blast
>> > nozzle oriface size and position. Blast nozzle (a piece of K&S 1/8 inch
>> > brass tubing) oriface was 3/32 inch for the test.  Probably bigger than
>> > necessary.
>> >
>> > In a few days I will try to post a photo or two of the bench test 
>> > setup,
>> > the
>> > burner assembly, and the firebox.
>> >
>> > Steve
>> > Duke of Spam
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