Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
Adam Nemeth wrote:
On 6/11/07, Olivier Goffart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
And i would even put the body element in the root of the message
element. So
even client that doesn't support pubsub can receive such message
Hmm... I disagree here a bit, but of course, you're the developer, so
the final decision is always yours ;) Here are my reasons:
1) It's not standard compliant I believe: every pubsub event is a
subchild of <event> field (at least I think this looking at XEP-0060
examples), so you can't go out of this field anyway without breaking
the protocol
2) We want (at least, me :) PEP protocols to spread, so I believe it
would be a bad idea to let it be granted (after all, it's not a
message, it's not a presence, but something in between, probably
closer to presence but not that close)
3) Personally I'd like to see it through knotify/growl, and not a
message - since it would be hard to tell if user typed it in or it is
just automatic eventing from AmaroK. Example:
http://jabbermania.blogspot.com/2007/05/general-pubsub-pep-receiver.html
Look at the picture (mockup of knotify).
Of course it's only my personal taste, but differentiating eventing
protocols from standard messages is a feature I believe.
This gets back to something that Justin Karneges keeps mentioning. If
you receive a message with a <body/> will your client just assume it's a
regular old chat message? Probably. So then you're going to have all
sorts of messages popping up "Adam is giving a presentation", "Oliver is
at the movies", "Peter is listening to Heart of the Sunrise" and so on,
it will drive you crazy and you'll quickly curse the day you ever
enabled that feature.
Peter
You are right, application payloads getting sent (as messages) should,
imo, not contain <body /> unless it expects to communicate that to the user.
In a lot of cases for pep typically, it would be consumed by the client
to appropriately add meta-data for the contact - it just would not make
sense to show the plain text info to user.
That being said, we should not preclude addition of body, it might make
sense for usecases (maybe where pep is more used like pubsub with
infrequent updates ?)
Mridul
