On 06/16/2008 10:37 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > On 06/16/2008 8:05 AM, Dave Cridland wrote: >> On Mon Jun 16 09:07:32 2008, Gustavo wrote: >>> We have submitted a new draft specifying a method to send attention >>> requests in a SIP messaging system. Any comment, suggestion or >>> criticism will be more than welcomed. >> I note you've referenced XEP-0224. I think it'd be useful if both >> protocols actually used the same XML namespace, so I'll suggest that on >> the XMPP standards list - I think that XMPP could probably still change, >> so picking the namespace from this document may be most sensible, but >> I'm hoping people will let me know if XEP-0224 has already been widely >> implemented. > > I would not say that XEP-0224 has been implemented widely yet.
Andreas Monitzer reports that XEP-0224 has been implemented in both Pidgin (formerly Gaim) and Adium: http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2008-June/019130.html >> I'm not entirely sold on the neccessity to be able to play tunes with >> the attention request whilst vibrating their laptop - presumably most >> useful for added effect on the low notes - and in more general terms, I >> prefer the concepts of XEP-0224, Section 6 - quite how the recipient >> should have their attention gained should be fully under the control of >> the recipient. > > +1 to that. If we go that route and don't include all the bells and whistles (and flashing lights and vibrations and whatever all else is currently in draft-garcia-simple-poke-00), then presumably we could all use the same XML schema and namespace. XEP-0224 is still experimental, so the XMPP Registrar has not yet issued a permanent namespace for that extension. However, this spec could easily be moved forward in the XSF's standards process since it's already implemented. Alternatively, we could defer to the work in the SIMPLE WG. I don't have a strong preference in that regard. However, if the SIMPLE WG proceeds with a more complex solution then folks in the XMPP community might go with a simpler solution and we could gateway the basic functionality without supporting lights and tones and such in XMPP. Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/
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