On Wed May 13 20:11:22 2009, Florian Zeitz wrote:
Just to have said it (in Pseudocode):
Variant A:
newVersion = getLargestVersionNumber() + 1;
save(newVersion, roster);

Variant B:
newVersion = sha1(roster);
if !getRoster(newVersion): // check if this roster is already saved
  save(newVersion, roster);

This is NOT way more difficult or anything.

Yes it is, and it's also a terrible idea, since the server would then have an ever increasing number of versions, many of which would never be requested by the client, and likely none of which would be needed in entirety.

Can we rename this XEP, and avoid the usage of "version" everywhere? It seems this is causing lots of people considerable confusion.

It *is* possible to implement this XEP by actually storing each and every version, but this is utterly pointless, for a number of reasons, not least because the server won't ever need them.

Now, what Jiří is saying is that in the examples, we're illustrating what appears to be the method described in 5.2, but giving it the behaviour of an implementation using the method described in 5.3, whereas using a "pure" sequence value is simpler to understand.

I'm in two minds on this - I've commented before that I'd like to see some examples, especially those describing more complex cases, using the simple sequence values, since they're much easier to describe in supporting prose.

However, I'm mindful that this, too, is not an ideal implementation - I suggested in 5.3, fourth para a slightly better refinement - and there is the risk that a naïve client implementor may not realise that the examples are illustrative rather than exhaustive, and implement a client that expects integers only. Still, as long as not *all* examples show simple integer sequences, I think it might benefit some examples. (Perhaps Example 3, for instance).

Dave.
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