On Aug 24, 2011, at 22:19, Evgeniy Khramtsov wrote:

>>> 
>>> We already have vcard-temp:x:update for that.
>> In my opinion, "vcard-temp:x:update" is a hack:
>> * It is documented in XEP-0153 solely for vCard(-temp)-based avatars
> 
> So? :)
> 

It only covers pushing an update when the avatar changes, not changes to given 
name, surname, phone numbers, etc.

>> * It violates at least one SHOULD in RFC 6121 ยง 4.2.2 (presence update not 
>> related to a user's availability for communication or the communication 
>> capabilities of the resource)
> 
> SHOULD is not a MUST. Violate if you want.
> 

From RFC 2119:

SHOULD   This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there
   may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore a
   particular item, but the full implications must be understood and
   carefully weighed before choosing a different course.

I don't see "Violate if you want" anywhere in that description.

>> * It requires at least one resource for a user to be or become online 
>> (inappropriate to impossible for corporate/enterprise deployments)
> 
> Is it really a big issue?
> 

Yes it is.  For corporate and enterprise environments, the vCard information is 
most often managed in a central location (such as LDAP/AD).  These same 
environments often have a strong requirement for updates to be broadcasted in a 
timely manner.


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