2017-05-30 16:28 GMT+02:00 Kevin Smith <[email protected]>:
> On 30 May 2017, at 15:18, Daniel Gultsch <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 2017-05-30 16:02 GMT+02:00 Dave Cridland <[email protected]>:
>>> Presence, mind, I'm not so sold on - I think it's significantly less
>>> important, since presence is stateful rather than an event. But I'm
>>> not averse to it - I'd just argue that if it causes problems, just
>>> don't bother delay-stamping.
>>
>> I have no hard feelings regarding presence however if we stamp with
>> the account jid it wont cause problems.
>> And people are really obsessed with 'Last Seen' Whatapp-like
>> information. (That's how I stumbled over the problem in the first
>> place.) So in their interest it would really help to have a more
>> detailed time information on presence as well.  (Mind you CSI can
>> easily delay those information by multiple hours)
>
> I’m not sure, given the peculiarities of presence probes and S2S and etc., 
> that using presence for this is particularly reliable. I could wrong (again).

For this kind of audience and in lack of a 'proper' mechanism for this
faking it seems to be good enough.

Also stamping presences is done elsewhere as well. (Presences received
after signing in are usually stamped). A lot of clients show
'Available since…' or 'Away since…' information somewhere in the UI.

So reliable or not SM/CSI should not behave different here.

cheers
Daniel
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