On 7 Jun 2017, at 21:46, Ignat Gavrilov <[email protected]> wrote:
>> From: Kevin Smith <[email protected]>
>> I can understand that argument, but I think a lot of people want to have the 
>> currently deployed thing-that-isn’t-OMEMO (OMEMO-siacs) in XEP-0384. I’d 
>> rather it was documented in a different XEP too, but putting it in 384 is 
>> part of the compromise.
> 
> 1. A lot of people don't give a f*** on what is in XEP-384, those people are 
> called users and they build the large majority of the XMPP network.

That may well be true, but this thread, and many others recently, have been 
started by people who do care what’s in XEPs. That’s kinda the point of this 
organisation.

> 2. I think we should adapt to the fact that the thing-that-isn’t-OMEMO is 
> what most users (again the majority) recognize as OMEMO. Maybe we should 
> start calling it OMEMO and the-thing-that-is-in-the-XEP-but-nobody-cares 
> shall be XEP-OMEMO? OMEMO did exist before it was a XEP so obviously OMEMO is 
> not solely defined by what is in the XEP.

Indeed, publishing a version of XEP-0384 that matches the current 
implementations, before we move on, is aimed to address this so that the 
ambiguity is removed. Then we can move on with the standards process.

/K
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