On 15 Nov 2017 07:44, "Evgeny Khramtsov" <xramt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:21:22 +0300 Kozlov Konstantin <yag...@yandex.ru> wrote: > I hope the Council will never accept such inconsistent thing as an > official XEP. Too late, it's already implemented in Conversations and, since it's kinda a trend maker, this stuff will stick around. Which is sad, because: 1) no matter what arguments you bring if a Council member wants it, it will be merged making all XSF discussions pointless 2) a trend making app is a bad thing: all IT is suffering because of this and the consequence is hyped adopted technologies (like Markdown and the whole HTML5 pile of shit) which sucks in technical sense. I agree with your second point, although not with both your examples. While I dislike much of HTML 5, for example, it's demonstrably a de facto standard, and this is better than fragmentation. Finally, Conversations might have implemented this, yes, but both Gajim and Psi have implemented something similar for years. Over a decade, I believe. Guus implemented it in Spark in very short time, too. Conversations is not setting a trend here, but following one. Conversations is following an existing trend. Sam has merely documented it, and we're trying to ensure that the downsides of this approach - and I don't think anyone pretends there aren't any - are mitigated. This is not ideal, it is not perfect, but I think we're well into von Clausevitz territory[1], and the question should be whether we can control the inevitable damage. Dave. 1 - "The enemy of the good plan is the dream of the perfect one". _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards Unsubscribe: standards-unsubscr...@xmpp.org _______________________________________________
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