On Sat, 23 May 2020 at 11:53, Mathieu Pasquet <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 23.05.2020 11:38, Matthew Wild wrote: > >On Sat, 23 May 2020, 10:51 Maxime Buquet, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > All those who expressed feelings against adding this to 157 at the > time > > you sent this didn't mention why. > > > > I personally don't see much issue with it, so I just PR'd against it > to > > add that registry entry. > > > > > >Just want to add a couple of things that have come up in discussions since > >starting this thread: > > > >1) Someone (sorry, don't remember who) had the idea of including this in > DNS. > > > >Advantages: > > > >- the client doesn't need to discover and cache the value after login, > it can > >discover it on-demand whenever it has connection issues > > > >- the admin is able to add/update the value while the service is down > > > >Disadvantages: > > > >- Not all clients may be in a position to query TXT records (web clients, > may > >require additional dependency in native clients) > > > >- Not necessarily secure without DNSSEC > > > >- Additional work for people who want to delegate a domain for XMPP > hosting by > >a third party > > > > Putting this part into perspective, while I like the DNS solution, > that’s yet another "out of band " bit to setup, and I don’t see > a huge benefit compared to caching regularly that bit of info > from the disco. (at jabberfr we have one ouf our "big" XMPP domains > managed by someone else, and it can take weeks to update DNS records… > It’s not very practical.) > > Would .well-known work? So for status information on xmpp:jabber.fr, you'd follow redirects from https://jabber.fr/.well-known/xmpp-server-status and get a status page back. Could easily have two, for machine-readable versus human readable, too. > The only functional downside of re-using 0157 for that purpose would be > if the server is down before the very first connection of the client, > then it has no way of knowing, but is it a case we want to optimize? > > Mathieu > _______________________________________________ > Standards mailing list > Info: https://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/standards > Unsubscribe: [email protected] > _______________________________________________ >
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