Precisely that is why I propose using the huge boiler in the greenhouse
to produce biochar and the waste heat is "captured" and utilized for
raising worms and growing food. I would like input from experts who
want to advise and partner with this project. Nightime fire tending is
covered and when hot and air is shut down the char forms and the water
continues to circulate in the floor until light of day, char is cooled
and removed and cycle resumes with reignighting the fire box mid
afternoon. The char chunks produced in this huge wood biomass burner is
amazing and I have noticed positive results in both the worm beds and
gardens where it is applied. Gerrie
Regards, Gerrie Baker, aka The Worm Lady
Dedicated to delivering organic waste solutions through education and
demonstrations of worm composting habitats indoors and outside. Focused on
converting garbage to gardens and encouraging people to grow their own healthy
nutritious food and beautiful edible flowers.
The Worm Factory
874 Grady Road, Foley Mountain
Westport, ON K0G 1X0
613-273-7595
www.thewormfactory.ca
On 10/10/2011 10:39 AM, Chas Hinckley wrote:
That is precisely the reason I am thinking about combining these two
concepts; biomass/char and mass absorption and transmission. I want to
produce char as a co-product of the heating cycle, cooking will also
be a secondary consideration.
My desire is to find a design that will benefit and further
enhance each of these concepts. I am not particularly enamored with
the idea of continuous "fire" tending, I do like the notion of
building one or two very hot, short duration fires and then walking
away to have the mass regulate the heating needs of the space.
As I said above creating biochar in this process is equally important
to my purposes. I really hate the idea and throwing off the "waste"
heat from the char production, as I also do not like the idea of
burning up the char in a continuously fed heating appliance. It seems
to me that it may be possible to doubly enhance the efficiencies of
each of the these two processes by combining them.
Does this seem desirable to any others here?
Chas, pronounced Chaz
If this is going to become a busy discussion I will need to set up a
different email acct for it, this is my studio email and it gets
enough activity on it's own. Is this a discussion that should be moved
to a list server?
----- Original Message -----
*From:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
<mailto:[email protected]> ; Alex English
<mailto:[email protected]>
*Cc:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> ;
Jote Mahern <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:* Sunday, October 09, 2011 11:29 PM
*Subject:* Re: [Stoves] High mass space heating options Re: Rocket
Stove for the PLACE
Alex: I believe the most appropriate answer to your final
question below (/"What do you see as the advantages of combining
these two approaches?"/) is one you gave yourself: ("...a desire
for char ...").
The beauty of high mass heaters is that they mesh well with a
batch process - the main (only?) drawback of char-making stoves.
Ron
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*From: *"Alex English" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*To: *"Discussion of biomass cooking stoves"
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>
*Cc: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
"Jote Mahern" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
*Sent: *Saturday, October 8, 2011 8:49:16 PM
*Subject: *Re: [Stoves] High mass space heating options Re: Rocket
Stove for the PLACE
Paul,
The TLUD configuration has it's advantages and disadvantages, like
any
system. One advantage is it's steady state energy release. High mass
heaters strive for a similar result. It seems a bit redundant to pair
the two. Perhaps it depends on other considerations like a desire for
char or an available particulate fuel supply.
There are some folks doing fine work at the Masonry Heater
Association.
http://mha-net.org/
They have done a lot on emissions, efficiency and durability.
They have looked into Down feed rocket configurations.
I'm not sure if they have quantified losses between firings, or
seasonal
efficiency.
Its a simple concept with lots of technical details.
What do you see as the advantages of combining these two approaches?
Alex
On 10/7/2011 10:02 AM, Paul S. Anderson wrote:
> Dear Jote and all,
>
> Your problem (opportunity) is about space heating. And you seem
to want
> biomass rather than fossil or other heat sources. So you should
consider
> all heat-transfer options with biomass, not just latch onto
Rocket or
> some other technology that makes heat.
>
> For the climate of the Los Angeles area, why not consider a
high-mass
> stove? It gets hot and then radiates heat for a long time.
>
> A new friend of mine in Massachusetts, Chas (prononced as in Jazz)
> Hinckley has a design for a high mass heater and we are discussing a
> moderately large TLUD combustor to provide the heat.
>
> We are looking for other people who might be specifically
interested in
> this high mass heating option with a TLUD heat source.
>
> If anyone is interested, please get in touch with me and Chas to
have
> some off-list discussions. (Chas is not subscribed to the Stoves
Listserv.)
>
> Yes, you can put a Rocket burner into a high mass device, but I
do not
> deal with that.
>
> Paul S. Anderson, PhD
> Known to some as: Dr. TLUD Doc Professor
> Phone (USA): 309-452-7072 SKYPE: paultlud Email: [email protected]
> www.gtz.de/de/dokumente/giz2011-en-micro-gasification.pdf (Best
ref.)
>
>
> Quoting Jote Mahern <[email protected]>:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> My name is Jote and I am looking for some guidance on the
subject of
>> building a rocket stove to heat an industrial space near 64th
and San
>> Pablo.
>> This space is home to the PLACE for sustainable living (People
Linking
>> Art
>> Community and Ecology). We are a nonprofit working as a community
>> resiliency laboratory and business incubator. We opened in May.
It is
>> starting to get pretty cool inside. Any help/advice is
appreciated. I am
>> heading up the project and have experience with cob and am
excited to
>> put it
>> to good use.
>>
>> I am hoping to locate plans and someone who is willing to go
over them
>> with
>> me.
>> If anyone is interested in joining the work party for the build out
>> that is
>> definitely welcome as well.
>>
>> Hope to hear from you soon!
>>
>
>
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