Crispin Pete et al. ,

Several in Malawi were dipping the agro residue based briquette in said veggie 
oils. Kobus experimented with same too. 
As I recall,  It provided a quick start and readily efficient self-consuming/ 
hcleaning/  wicking system for the oil during combustion. Very little is needed 
something like 1 or 2 ccs per a 10cm ΓΈ x 7.4cm tall, hollow core (~ 550 cc/~140 
gram) briquette.  

Richard Stanley 


On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:00 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:

> Dear Peter
>  
> Good to hear from you, I was thinking of you last week testing a downdraft 
> stove using chunks of wood the same size you use on your DD BBQ (barbie). The 
> chunks of wood provide quite a bit of excess air so the way the heat transfer 
> takes place it affected a lot.
>  
> >As far as I know the difference between kerosene (paraffin) and higher 
> >hydrocarbon fractions, including vegetable oils is the fact that they are 
> >not distillable under atmospheric pressure.
> The stove must work then by boiling something in the veggie oil that boils at 
> a temperature achievable in the evaporator tube. Perhaps that is why there is 
> so much gunk left behind. A completely different approach (and an old one) is 
> dripping oil onto a flat plate that is completely contained inside the 
> combustion chamber. People burn old engine oil that way, and for similar 
> reasons.
> >Undistillable hydrocarbons are fed into the fire as a spray of very fine 
> >droplets that burn completely.
> With the residence time in the flame matching the burnabilty of the droplet, 
> right? When a droplet of diesel burns, has it been evaporated by radiant heat 
> under that increasing pressure of the pressure wave?
> The same could be done with vegetable oils at the combustor end. However, 
> most vegetable oils tend to react slowly with oxygen to form gunk which 
> eventually blocks the passages it has to flow through.
> Is this process dramatically accelerated by heating the oil? In other words, 
> is the depositing cause by O2 already in the fuel? That bodes badly for the 
> future of burning raw oil.
> So for a stove that burns vegetable oil, the piping from the storage to the 
> burner should be of very simple shape and easy to clean.
> Daily, as I understand it.
> Realising that producing a spray of fine droplets is out of the question for 
> domestic stoves, we have to find something that feeds the oil to the 
> combustion zone where the carbon, resulting from the decomposition of the oil 
> is burnt as well.
> How about using one of those spinning disks with a spiky periphery that are 
> used in greenhouses to make as fine a mist as possible? They are very small 
> (50-75mm) and use only a small amount of power. It is conceivable they could 
> be driven by electricity, heat or draft.
> Possibly something like a perforated disk where the oil burns in updraft mode 
> and where the holes occupy a sufficient part of the disk area that all the 
> char comes in contact with air.
> Good idea. A variation on the drop-onto-plate idea might do.
> Does the Protos stove have any relation to Siemens.
> Yes it is a Bosch-Siemens product.
> Regards
> Crispin
>  
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