Tom and all, (I added Biochar listserv because it is as much or
more their topic than it is for Stoves.)
On 2/9/2013 7:29 PM, Tom Miles wrote:
Alex,
I haven't seen any complete TLUD char analyses. The Glaser groups
seems to be making their gasification char in the Pyreg gasifier.
Do we have a list of what would be "complete TLUD char analyses"???
This would probably be an un-ending list for some people.
Please see the analyses of TLUD chars in the "All Biochars Are Not
Created Equal" paper of 2009 by McLaughlin et al.
And when the list gets defined. how long do we need to do the tests that
are rather conclusively shown to be non-issues?
And want does the International Biochar Initiative and the various
national and regional organizations think about the testing? Are they
even reading these Listservs? Leadership that does not participate is
not leadership.
Personally, I agree with Mark. Biochar is Organic. and let's get on
with the real work.
Paul
Paul S. Anderson, PhD aka "Dr TLUD"
Email: [email protected] Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website: www.drtlud.com
*From:*Stoves [mailto:[email protected]] *On
Behalf Of *Alex English
*Sent:* Saturday, February 09, 2013 4:41 PM
*To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
*Subject:* Re: [Stoves] Characteristics of biochar was Re: [biochar]
grassifier & cedar chip char
Crispin, Tom,
http://www.ithaka-journal.net/certificate/european-biochar-certificate-v4.2-final2012.pdf
This document includes a lengthier discussion of PAHs in char,
including how some chars are used to bind them in soils, and that
current methods for testing are problematic.
We have test results from chars that could be called ' wood
gasification' char at levels below the 4mg/kg limit for 'premium biochar'.
The high PAH levels >1000mg/kg in wood gasification chars mentioned
below needs a further explanation of the production method. Wood
gasification is to vague.
Are there any PAH tests results for TLUD rice hull chars?
Alex
On 06/02/2013 2:35 PM, Crispin Pemberton-Pigott wrote:
Dear Tom
Thanks for that:
http://www.bacatec.de/dl/Ge09_Glaser-Steiner_engl.pdf
"A further criterion for the quality of biochar is the lack of
contamination with both inorganic
(e.g. heavy metals) and organic contaminants (e.g. polycyclic
aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH),
dioxins etc.). In this study, we could only evaluate polycyclic
aromatic hydrocarbons (PAH,
Fig. 4). Although chars from wood gasification are within the
elemental composition and the
black carbon thresholds, they exhibit extremely high PAH contents
(Fig. 4). Therefore, they
are not suited for soil amendmentand thus, they cannot be
classified as biochar. Surprisingly
high PAH contents were also measured in the barbeque charcoals
(Fig. 4) while all other
investigated chars had low PAH contents (Fig. 4)."
Well, there's a kick in the head. Why not? Because of chemicals
manufactured in the process that were not there in the original
fuel. That may explain a lot to some experimenters.
Regards
Crispin
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