Bruce-
I often sell WAPI's at $5.00 each to outdoor groups and others who want to use
them for camping or emergencies to help finance the free ones we distribute
through our programs.
Rotary Clubs sponsor WAPI's world wide and provide supplies to make them
yourself. One contact is: http://www.integratedsolarcooking.com/makewapis
I think the wax they use has a somewhat higher melting temp than the green
colored wax that Solar Cookers and I use. It's not a problem for those cooking
over fires, but makes a big negative difference with solar reflector stoves
because they heat more slowly and may not reach the higher temperature before
sunset.
There is also a quality control issue with the Rotary WAPI's. Because they are
put together by volunteers, they are sometimes poorly made and leak wax. Bob
Tait of Portland has a large, well trained staff who make excellent quality
WAPI's and distribute them for free to other non-profits. His organization is
Wapi's for the World and his email is [email protected]
Tom
http://www.integratedsolarcooking.com/makewapis
http://www.integratedsolarcooking.com/makewapis
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From: Bruce Stahlberg <[email protected]>
To: Tom Carter <[email protected]>; Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves <[email protected]>
Cc: Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <[email protected]>; Jeff Holiman
<[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Stoves] A simple water sterilization technique
Thanks Tom for the information. Do you know the wax that is used in a WAPI?
Is it easily, readily available in other countries? Any other wax that also
melts at or just above the same temperature?
I believe SCI, like many organizations, uses the costs to the general public of
the USA to help subsidize their programs internationally. Fairly common
practice and seems appropriate. At $7 - 9 per WAPI, the average citizen that
wants one is not as likely to make one. The additional cost is for convenience
and to help with programs to provide clean water, clean cooking.
Can you check with Bob to see what materials he uses? Might be useful for
others on this list to be able to make them locally too.
Bruce
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Tom Carter <[email protected]>
wrote:
All-
>No, No, No! Storing water in a dark container does NOT kill pathogenic
>bacteria or other organisms! Nor does refrigeration or even freezing. E
>Coli and other bacteria can survive for weeks in a cold dark environment.
>Heating, filtration, UV disinfection and chemical treatment (chlorine or
>other) are the only recommended methods I'm aware of for drinking water
>decontamination.
>Bacteria tend to cling to particles in the water so allowing it to settle or
>adding a flocculating agent can sometimes help a little. Particulate material
>in the water also blocks UV penetration and thus makes solar (UV) disinfection
>less effective.
>Part of the problem with bore wells and similar systems is that they become
>readily contaminated by misuse and need to be monitored. I'm aware of a
>diarrheal outbreak in Kenya
caused by a contaminated well, and so we recommend frequent testing of
community water sources. We supply the testing materials to trained health
workers and others at no cost so that they can safely and accurately monitor
local water supplies. For the average family it's better to just assume
contamination and develop the habits of drinking water purification.
>The WAPI's (Water Pasteurization Indicator's) that Jeff Holiman and others
>mentioned cost $7.00 each on the Solar Cookers International website, but
>really only cost about $.05 to manufacture. Where the rest of the money goes,
>I know not. Bob Tait of Clackamas, Oregon makes and distributes thousands of
>them for free to various missionary groups and other non-profits. My only
>point with Bob is that I believe they should used as part of a general
>program that supports various health and sanitation practices including safe
>latrines, hand washing and
clean water storage. These practices can be adapted to local cultural
practices and should include follow up and support.
>Our free training programs include teaching accurate testing and
>interpretation of water samples using the 3M petrifilm methods and a second
>fluorescent confirmatory assay called Colilert. We also train participants in
>the use of the WAPI's, and other disinfection methods and in the construction
>of simple solar and biomass stoves that that families can use to heat their
>water and to cook. The workshops usually take a day and a half but for
>efficiency sometimes can be squeezed into a day. If there is enough interest
>I could organize one here in Portland or in some other site.
>Tom Carter
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>________________________________
> From: Crispin Pemberton-Pigott <[email protected]>
>To: 'Tom Carter' <[email protected]>; 'Discussion of biomass
>cooking stoves' <[email protected]>
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:59 AM
>Subject: RE: [Stoves] A simple water sterilization technique
>
>
>
>Dear Friends
>
>Keeping water in the total dark for 3 days kills quite a lot of things
>including Bilharzia. When I worked in Rural Water Supply in Swaziland we
>provided covered tanks with more than 3 days storage on most systems for this
>reason (in the lowveld). We also used dosing boreholes with chlorination
>occasionally (always when new) and precautionary chlorination using bypass
>jets on pumped systems to get a 2 ppm level at the last standpipe. No one
>boiled water to purify it in those days.
>
>In contrast, nearly everyone in peri-urban and rural Indonesia boils their
>drinking water. Completely different situation, for which stoves are required.
>
>Regards
>Crispin
>
>
>Jeff-
>Thanks for the post. Yes, it's true that pasteurization at 65C kills all
>pathogenic bacteria and viruses, as well as worms and cysts. I don't
>recommend "feeling it with your hand" however as even a 10 degree lower
>temperature will have a much lower effectiveness. As you note, a wax
>indicator developed by Dr. Robert Metcalf accurately and safely demonstrates
>when the water is pathogen free. We distribute them at no cost to families
>and instruct them on their use. Filtration through a clean cloth probably
>helps a little, as does letting the water settle, but is not necessary for
>pasteurization. Some methods that use solar UV disinfection do require clean
>water and clear PET water bottles for effectiveness. They also take longer,
>lack an end point and have inconsistent results and for that reason we don't
>recommend them.
>The last step is keeping safe water safe, by storing it in clean containers
>with small openings so that people cannot recontaminate it by dipping in with
>dirty containers or hands.
>I'm going to give a water testing and water pasteurization workshop here in
>Portland in the next months if anyone is interested in being trained.
>Tom Carter
>Agua Pura Para El Pueblo
>
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