Dear Ron

Thanks for your very interesting report to date on "The Big Event."

I think that one thing that could be very helpful is a Graph showing " Stove 
Price" versus "Potential Customers." Clearly, if a person is earning say $1 per 
day, and the stove cost $70, this would be equivalent to 70 days income. Here 
in Canada, where the minimum wage is $10 per hour, or $80 per day, a stove 
costing 70 days income would cost $5,600.

Or, to look at it from the other direction, "What price would a stove have to 
sell for, so that 90% of the World's Population could afford to buy it"

Thanks!

Kevin

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  Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 11:19 AM
  Subject: [biochar] First report from Phnom Penh


    

  Hi to two lists  (with 6 ccs)

    1.  This written at end of "first" day of conference.  Actually the 
official first GACC day is tomorrow, but today was also the second day of 
pre-conference activities..  List members active on these two lists, here (and 
shown on the "to" list), who I hope will add more are Priya Karve, Paul 
Anderson and Crispin Pemberton-Piggott.  I missed the first day - Sunday - 
returning from Siem Reap  - home of Angkor Wat.   This is definitely the most 
impressive world heritage site I have seen or could imagine.  Uniformly 
impressed by the Cambodian people.

    2.  My overall impression is that very few attendees know much about 
biochar nor char-making stoves.  Of course most everyone knows something about 
stoves -  although I would guess that fewer than half have been involved for 
more than a year or t wo  Heard tonight that there are 650  registrants.  Great 
conference facilities;  no conference registration fee and fair number of 
freebie meals, coffee-break treats etc.

   3.  My first surprise char-making stove encounter was with Sonta Kauti, a 
Zambian with "Emerging Cooking Solutions"  - whose stove can be seen at 
www.emerging.se.  I have not yet seen the actual stove, nor yet know its 
pricing - but plan more talks with Sonta

    4.  Next was a short encounter with Ruben Walker of "African Clean Energy"  
(see http://www.ace.co.ls/), now manufacturing in Lesotho the "Philips" fan 
stove developed by Paul van der Sluis (PvdS).  This has been identified as 
having the best performance characteristics so far tested.  This was my first 
chance to hold one - and it looks exceptionally well made.  A surprise was the 
set of 10 or 12 (?) flat ceramic liner pieces for the interior (maybe 1 cm 
thick??).&nb sp; Presumably long life time - being non-metal.   Ruben said one 
could hold the outside of the stove after an hour of cooking -possible because 
there are  four concentric metal cylinders (three concentric air gaps).   This 
stove is not char making - but I remember hearing that PvdS regularly operates 
it as a charcoal-maker.   Cost in neighborhood of $70.

   5. Later, at this evening's reception,  Mr. Adrian Padt of "Rocket Works" 
introduced himself  (see http://www.rocketworks.org/  - including photo of 
Adrian).  This is the stove with the interesting heavy wire mesh exterior that 
we discussed a few months ago - also can be held.   This also looked 
exceptionally well made and rugged.  Cost in the neighborhood of $50.   In 
addition to the version seen at the site, they are now adding a door to better 
control excess air.

    6. I attended a day-long session put on by the World B ank and the Asian 
Development Bank.- the emphasis was on country organizations in this region.  
Crispin was on what I thought the best panel - on testing, etc. This is to hope 
that Priya,  Paul, and Crispin (and anyone else from these lists here in Phnom 
Penh) will also add their early summary thoughts.

  Any questions I/we can try to answer?

  Ron


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