Dear LPG-Aware friends

The topic is an important one. The total energy used cooking is a tiny fraction 
of fossil fuel use and it is far better applied to cooking than to other uses. 

It is also worth mentioning that Africa flares as gas (totally wasted) 12 times 
as much energy as the continent uses. To hold an ideological position that 
'using fossil fuels is wrong' is getting us nowhere. If you want to make a 
meaningful contribution to cooking solution discussions one of the sacrifices 
is making room for the realities of people's needs. There several solutions 
being pushed which are 'let them eat cake' ideas. 

LPG is widely used in Indonesia by the poor because of how it works and how 
much it costs. They do not use it exclusively, adding wood for heavy lifting 
like heating water. Fuel stacking. 

Bottled gas is a 'forever fuel' because it can be made from all sorts of 
things, not just a fraction of natural gas. Below 30 km in the ground natural 
gas forms naturally, with the longer chain molecules forming at ever-increasing 
depths. At 100 km and 1500 C C13H28 forms, as confirmed by laboratory 
experiments. The 'fossil' description is in need of a review as it becomes more 
obvious that these hydrocarbons are formed by natural processes. 

Whether they are or not, LPG (or other bottled gas) is one viable and strongly 
appreciated cooking solution and quite frankly, a better use of the resource 
than many other ways to deal with it. 

Indonesia chooses to subsidise LPG with taxes on other petroleum products 
(cross-subsidisation). Vietnam, apparently not. Subsidisation in Senegal of the 
3 kg only has not worked out so well as the surrounding countries did not. All 
the cylinders disappeared across the border. Why? Because it is a highly 
desired fuel. Simple as that. 

Regards
Crispin
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From: Paul Olivier <[email protected]>
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Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:23:14 
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