Dear Frank

I am not in any position to say how people turn down their fires. By that I 
mean this is a performance based approach, not a prescription in any way. There 
are good reasons why people use an open fire. One is that the fire is very 
controllable. 

I will address the efficiency determination separately. One thing at a time, 
though I agree with your HHV number the pure carbon. I think the H2 number you 
gave is the LHV (117 MJ/kg). 

So I am proposing that we segregate cooking appliances into functional 
categories with BASIC characterisations for each. They are of course driven by 
the customers and what they think when they buy something. 

A BBQ (barbie, braai) is a category of appliance that is largely use for 
roasting and grilling. It usually has very little power control with the food 
being raised or lowered, covered or not as a means of control. 

A kettle is a water heater that shuts off automatically if it is electrical. Is 
that available for LPG or wood pellets or ethanol? Why not? Maybe no one asked. 

Many people boil a small quantity if water, up to perhaps 2 litres. Cecil has 
identified this as a 'class' of cooking activity. Heating tea in the evening or 
morning is common. Sometimes people use LPG for this even if they rarely use it 
for anything else. This a task highly suited of a small stove that requires no 
attention and has zero controllability save being turned on and off. 

Translate that into larger units for heating 5 or 10 or 20 litres of water at a 
time. None of these require turn down. But none of them are 'cooking stoves'. 

The requirement, literally, for cooking is a controllable heat source. So the 
question is on the floor: how much control is enough to be a minimum?

Regards
Crispin
>From BB9900

-----Original Message-----
From: "Frank Shields" <[email protected]>
Sender: "Stoves" <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 11:02:49 
To: 'Discussion of biomass cooking stoves'<[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition - controllability

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