Michael, The gas bottled used at the household level is filled with 12 kg of gas.
Paul On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 8:55 AM, mtrevor <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > Just curious. > What size bottle costs USD $21.00 > Here in the Marshall Islands the standard US 20 lbs bottle is $37.50 > and the small pressure cans in the stores run from $0.96 up to $2.00 plus. > > Michael N Ttvor > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Paul Olivier <[email protected]> > *To:* Discussion of biomass cooking stoves<[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, May 04, 2013 11:28 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Stoves] The price of bottled gas > > Philip, > > Here in Vietnam bottled gas costs more than $21.00 US per bottle. There is > no distribution problem here at all. Some households use up a bottle in > less than one month. When the monthly wage is not more than $120 US per > month, the situation is extremely dire. > > In many parts of Vietnam, rice hulls and coffee husks are often dumped in > rivers and valleys. Sometimes they are uselessly burned as a means of > disposal. With the right type of stove, these agricultural residues put out > a beautiful blue flame that rivals that of bottled gas. > > When we derive energy from fossil fuels, there is nothing of value left > behind. But when we gasify or pyrolyze biomass, a valuable biochar remains. > When incorporated into the soil, biochar promotes plant growth and > sequesters carbon. > > Why derive energy from fossil fuels when we can get it from renewable > biomass? > Are you not, in any way, concerned about global warming? > > Thanks. > Paul > > > On Sat, May 4, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Philip Lloyd <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Paul Oliver commented " The price of bottled gas is a huge problem >> throughout most of the >> developing world." >> >> Part of the problem is poor models of distribution. Locally, we are >> seeing >> the entry of a supplier who a) has found a way of filling 5kg bottles >> rapidly at a central plant and b) distributing them directly to the >> retailer >> at minimal cost, with a growing chain of retailers chosen so that the >> householder can resupply within 500m. The net result is a halving of the >> street price of bottle gas, and it is now the cheapest way to cook. >> >> The advantage of filling at a central plant is that safety is greatly >> enhanced; and the discovery of a way of filling small cylinders rapidly >> means high throughput and low costs. Most big bottlers of gas don't like >> the really small cylinders because they couldn't fill them rapidly enough >> to >> get throughput - it was cheaper (and far less safe) to refill them at the >> retailers. >> >> Regards to all >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Stoves mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: >> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >> >> > > > -- > Paul A. Olivier PhD > 26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong > Dalat > Vietnam > > Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam) > Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam) > Skype address: Xpolivier > http://www.esrla.com/ > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Stoves mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ > > ------------------------------ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2013.0.2904 / Virus Database: 3162/6294 - Release Date: 05/03/13 > > > _______________________________________________ > Stoves mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ > > > -- Paul A. Olivier PhD 26/5 Phu Dong Thien Vuong Dalat Vietnam Louisiana telephone: 1-337-447-4124 (rings Vietnam) Mobile: 090-694-1573 (in Vietnam) Skype address: Xpolivier http://www.esrla.com/
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