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From: [email protected]
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves ; Erin Rasmussen ; Lanny Henson
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition
...del...
But I am only responding because you were following up with Lanny.
Taking his last line from below
"Just to confuse things, would you call a pig on a stick, over a fire a
stove?"
I would answer emphatically "no" (as I think we all would),
# The people who use a "Three Stone Fire" as a standard for comparing stoves
might not be as quick to dismiss the above pig roaster. :-)
but it should be listed among the better (and rarely used) ways to make
charcoal, whch obviously all stoves should do..
# If a Roasting on a Spit" or a "Three Stone Fire" are rarely used for making
charcoal, there is probably a very good reason for it. One good reason is that
theyn would want to cook food and not not make char. If these primitive
techonologies are "... among the better ways to make charcoal..." how come
there aren't many charcoal producers making charcoal with this technology?
Going further, there probably is lot to be gained (for biochar) also by
promoting more "fire walking" as practiced in the South Pacific. But I digress.
# I see no merit in promoting firewalking on the stoves list.
Other "cooker" approaches to advancing biochar?
# This is the "Stoves List", not the "Biochar Promotion List." The
Biochar-Policy List was formed for those and other issues not relatihng
directly to cooking stoves.
Kevin
Ron
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From: "Erin Rasmussen" <[email protected]>
To: "Discussion of biomass cooking stoves" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 2:06:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition
We also use "cooker" when we're talking about retained heat cooking. There's
no fire there, so not a 'stove' but the food still does a fine job of cooking
away in the insulated basket.
Erin
From: Stoves [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Lanny Henson
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 11:24 AM
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves
Subject: Re: [Stoves] Stove Definition
Kevin, thanks for stirring the pudding.
I believe we are using “Cooking Stoves” as a term that covers all cooking
appliances like ovens, griddles, grills, roasters, vat cookers and other types
of cookers.
If you said “cooking appliance” many people would not know what you were
talking about, but “stove” is well known word that translates well.
The word “cooker” would cover stoves, food cooking appliances, as well as non
food, industrial type cookers, so “cooker” may be a good word to toss in when
talking about “stoves”.
Just to confuse things, would you call a pig on a stick, over a fire a stove?
Lanny
----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin
To: Discussion of biomass cooking stoves ; Frank Shields
Cc: 'Jim Jetter' ; 'Hugh McLaughlin' ; 'Discussion of biomass cooking
stoves'
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:50 PM
Subject: [Stoves] Stove Definition
Dear List
Just what is a "stove?"
I would suggest that it is important that we all know what a "stove" is,
when we attempt to determine the difference between a "good stove" and a "poor
stove.'
When we ask Mr. Google, we get more than 7 million hits. However, the most
common definitions seem to be typified by the one at
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stove
" 1a : a portable or fixed apparatus that burns fuel or uses electricity to
provide heat (as for cooking or heating) "
At http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ , the stated purpose of the site is:
"Our site is dedicated to helping people develop better stoves for cooking
with biomass fuels in developing regions. "
What about accepting the Merriam-Webster definition for a "stove?"
Would anyone have a better definition for a "stove?"
Best wishes,
Kevin
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