Dear Dean and Paul O.,

The type of device that you describe (your messages are below) has been done but at this point it is not commercially viable at small sizes for residential purposes.

Note: What are commonly called "Pellet Stoves" in America meet your criteria of having "forced draft with auger pellet heating stove" and are affordable by affluent people. However, they have full-combustion in one spot (burn all the way to ash without the gasifier-charactertistic of making gases separately from the burning of the gases.) And they are not really configured to be cooking stoves. The American pioneer of pellet stoves (Jerry Whitfield see: http://woodpelletguru.blogspot.com/2007/12/in-beginning.html ) has stated in the past year at some conference his interest in making a unit with the cooking function. But i have not heard more about that, and I do not have direct contact with him. Info about pellet stoves is at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellet_stove Jerry Whitfield is also interested in biochar: See http://harvestcleanenergy.org/blog/Jerry-Whitfield-on-biochar.html

On the topic of an actual gasifier for this task, the AVUD technology and initial products have been done by Chip Energy. See www.chipenergy.com (Biomass Furnace and the Biomass Grill) and is described in the widely available paper "Micro-gasification: What it is and why it works" published in Boiling Point several years ago. (also found at the www.drtlud.com website ).

The problem is the costs of having augers and fans only become financially viable when the unit size is substantially larger than what is practical for residential use. I believe that this can be overcome, but I and Chip Energy do not have the financial muscle to undertake that venture at present.

If anyone would like to explore that type of device, please contact me. And you can meet with me, but this will NOT be a focal topic/target of my activities at the Stove Camps where I will be presenting in Uganda, Oregon, Tennessee and Massachusetts in July, July, Aug, and Oct., respectively.

I do not recommend that you start from scratch. It took me 8 years to get to the AVUD stage, and I and Chip Energy have not revealed everything in the publications.

Paul


Paul S. Anderson, PhD  aka "Dr TLUD"
Email:  [email protected]   Skype: paultlud  Phone: +1-309-452-7072
Website:  www.drtlud.com

On 5/11/2013 9:51 PM, Dean Still wrote:
Hi Paul,

Although we have tried repeatedly to make a true gasifier (making gas in one place that is transported to and burned in a wood gas cooking stove) we haven't had great success. It seems easier to me to follow the forced draft with auger pellet heating stove approach. This is a well known technology and might be relatively easy to change into a cooking stove for folks in industrialized countries, I think. The TLUD comes close but doesn't have the ease of operation of a forced draft auger type pellet stove.

I'll try to make a prototype model for Stove Camp. I agree that it's much better to only burn renewable gas that does not add CO2 to the atmosphere. Let's get to work and create the needed solutions.

Best,

Dean

On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Paul Olivier <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Anil,

    I really think that we are coming close to the day when biomass
    stoves could be installed in modern kitchens. If biomass fuel has
    a relatively high bulk density, if it is uniform in grain size, if
    it is below 12% in moisture, (in other word, if it's well
    prepared), it could be gasified or pryrolized in such a manner
    that it could produce a gas that could compete with the gas
    derived from fossil fuels that are now being burned in modern
    kitchens. It's not enough that we design biomass stoves for poor
    people. We should be using them ourselves.

    I say to the entire stove community. Wake up. Design biomass
    stoves that you would be proud to use in your own kitchens. Do not
    just worry about the respiratory health of poor people. Think
    equally about the much bigger picture of the health of our entire
    planet that profoundly impacts rich and poor alike. Every time we
    turn on a modern gas appliance, we are contributing to global
    warming. Let us do all within our power to put an end to this
    nonsense.

    Paul Olivier


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