Jock, Ben, List, etal 1. I suggest we are apt to see a mixed mode for stoves: centralized manufacture of key parts and decentralized assembly. This is the World Stove model (based on least cost principles - import duties, quality control, attractive design, added services, etc). I worked twice for a small local PV company in Zimbabwe, and this was their key - provided much better service for customers than any of their competitors, for small parts - not the panels.
2. Ben: Deloitte does good work. I found this one: http://dupress.com/articles/the-transformation-of-manufacturing/?id=us:em:na:dup633:read:dup:121713&elq=9ac6469b7bc34fb59a2f895ff968dc1e&elqCampaignId=1164 did you have a different cite? Ron On Jan 1, 2014, at 9:07 AM, Jonathan P Gill <[email protected]> wrote: > I am with those who favor decentralization. The internet model is the proof > of the pudding. The internet could never have been built by the centralized > model! > > A key aspect of the decentralized model is that it is the most effective way > to leverage the human and financial capital resources at the edges. These > are far vaster in aggregate than anything the centralized model can arrange. > The simple fact is that the problems being addressed require a level of > resources that ONLY the decentralized internet model can deliver. The under > resourced central model can only fail, as any badly under capitalized > business knows. > > Best Wishes for a Distributed & Decentralized 2014. > > Jock > > Jock Gill > P. O. Box 3 > Peacham, VT 05862 > > google.com/+JockGill > > Extract CO2 from the atmosphere! > > On Dec 31, 2013, at 9:51 PM, Ben Blevins <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Deloitte contractors suggested decentralized for various reasons, there >> consulting was rejected because the finding did not reinforce the message of >> mass production and distribution by development industry players. >> >> B >> >> >> On Dec 31, 2013, at 6:34 PM, Paul Anderson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Dear Paal, and all, >>> >>> As much as I can agree with Paal's statements, but I think the cards are >>> stacked against the success of decentralized efforts. >>> >>> The issue that Paal raises about the need to have decentralized production >>> of stoves (and fuels) is a touchy topic because the "model" of the affluent >>> world is for centralized industrial production. That centralized model is >>> certainly a cornerstone of the GACC and WB and many who feel that the >>> model of the affluent world will work to resolve major issues in the >>> developing world. And they control access to most of the funding. And >>> they present very convincing arguments. (If they could not, they would >>> not be in control of the situation.) >>> >>> It would be good to have some examples of decentralized efforts having >>> major impacts. Maybe the spread of the Kenyan ceramic jiko (KCJ) is one >>> example. >>> >>> I will be at ETHOS and willing for such discussions if others step forward >>> wanting to discuss this informally as an ad hoc sub-group. >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> Doc / Dr TLUD / Prof. Paul S. Anderson, PhD >>> Email: [email protected] >>> Skype: paultlud Phone: +1-309-452-7072 >>> Website: www.drtlud.com >>> >>> On 12/31/2013 10:15 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 08:12:54 -0700, >>>> [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Due to health and age it will not be possible for me to participate, but >>>>> after 30 years working with task and followed the discussion at Stove >>>>> list I have come to this conclusion. >>>>> >>>>> There has to be a discussion at ETHOS about centralized or decentralized >>>>> activities regarding fuel and stove production with a view on the >>>>> enormous unemployment in developing countries. Taken into consideration >>>>> the high demands of clean combustion, pellets will be the future biomass >>>>> fuel for simple clean burning such as TLUD ND and FD. Energy forestry and >>>>> agriculture energy production together collection of waste biomass of >>>>> different types will give a lot of new needed jobs. >>>>> >>>>> · Registration of local waste combustible biomass. >>>>> >>>>> · Use of local resources >>>>> >>>>> · Biochar production by cooking. >>>>> >>>>> That will be the best way for GACC Stove program to support the low >>>>> income groups all around the worl >>>>> >>>>> Best regards Paal Wendelbo [email protected] >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Stoves mailing list >>>> >>>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >>>> >>>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: >>>> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Stoves mailing list >>> >>> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >>> [email protected] >>> >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >>> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >>> >>> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: >>> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Stoves mailing list >> >> to Send a Message to the list, use the email address >> [email protected] >> >> to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page >> http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org >> >> for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: >> http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >> > _______________________________________________ > Stoves mailing list > > to Send a Message to the list, use the email address > [email protected] > > to UNSUBSCRIBE or Change your List Settings use the web page > http://lists.bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/stoves_lists.bioenergylists.org > > for more Biomass Cooking Stoves, News and Information see our web site: > http://stoves.bioenergylists.org/ >
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