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> Who we are attracted to is not choice but biology. In your opinion Steve. There is no proof of this whatsoever. The current train of thought is that same sex attraction may be the result of a combination of biology and environment, but there is no proof of this either. > ..gays > who have tried to pass, > who have gotten married and had children fail in the > end because they are > going against the nature they were given at birth. Your blanket statement does not hold. There are quite a few people, male and female who have rejected homosexual life styles and behaviors and are leading quite happy lives; one such man testified before the House Judicial Committee last week. And if the "role models" that Hollywood are rolling out these days are any measure, it seems that sexual preferance changes day to day (depending on the weather or perhaps a perceived lack of publicity). > Who the heck are we to claim some sort of > superiority? These are not NEW > rights for partnership they seek but EQUAL rights > under CIVIL law. This is your opinion based on nothing. If you expect to recieve a measured, logical response you must provide a measured, logical position. I've pointed out the undisputable fact that all adults in Minnesota have the same rights to marry, subject to the same prohibitions without regard to race, gender, national origin (you know, things over which people have no control); this is where you make a counter arguement. > Again, you spew the common misconception that this > is a lifestyle choice. I'm not "spewing" anything my friend. I'm stating opinions and making arguements. As I've pointed out, there is no consensus on how someone comes to be attracted sexually to the same sex, but whether someone acts upon those feelings is completely a matter of choice; that is a fact. > Which, of course, explains why homosexual activity > also occurs in the animal > world. >The legendary racehorse and prodigious stud > Man-O-War was found to > participate in homosexual sex--but then I am sure > you are a speciest who > thinks that man is the only creature on the planet > worthy of consideration. Are you serious? You are comparing human beings to horses? What about gold fish? Or ducks? And now in addition to bigotry I stand accused of what...*specieism*? YOW! > Homosexuality has occured throughout history at a > near constant 10%. Again, you are making a statement that has no basis in fact. There is no consensus on the percentage of the population that is attracted to the same sex (indeed today the number seems quite fluid), there are no reliable studies and even most *rational* proponants of homosexuality do not make any such claim. So you say 10%, I say 1%; who is right? Now prove it. > I agree--let's get back to the Bible. Agree with whom? I never, ever said anything about the Bible. Now you are arbitrarilly interjecting information for which you, nor I have made any base arguement. But by all means continue... I especially > like that part about Lot > and his Daughters or when Jacob worked for 7 years > for Laban for Laban's > daughter Rachel to be his wife. And when the > wedding night came Laban > slipped in Rachel's older sister Leah instead. When > Jacob saw her next to > him by the dawn's early light, Laban asked him how > he could expect the > younger daughter with <snip> handmaiden Zilpah who also > bore him two children. > > Kind of like Abraham and Sarah and her handmaid, > Hagar-- > > Let's bring back handmaidens!! What any of that has to do with homosexuality or even remotely advances your arguement (I'm sure there is one in there somewhere) eludes me...as with so much of the pro-homosexual arguement. Who needs logic when you got a flashy flag to wave around right? Perhaps next time you'd care to address the points I've made earlier Steve, but really, take your time. TSwift Cherokee Park "This is MY United States of Whatever!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html _____________________________________________ SPPS Budget Reduction Forum - Feb. 23-27 Co-Sponsored By NEAT: http://www.stpaulneat.org/ _____________________________________________ NEW ADDRESS FOR LIST: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, modify subscription, or get your password - visit: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/listinfo/stpaul Archive Address: http://www.mnforum.org/mailman/private/stpaul/
