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My immediate response is, "Hear, Hear! Excellent response. We don't seem
to be capable of civility unless reminded that we are civilized humans.
The discussion of different points related to this issue are really
educational and will help us all consider the other side if we are willing
to but listen. You don't have to agree but you just might develop an
understanding. Willie Nesbit, "the midway lurker"
Tim Erickson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: [StPaul] Respectful Dialogue and Discussion
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In response to the following statements:
"anti-American"
"bigoted religious zealots"
I'd like to submit the following opinions for your consideration. I'm
posting this as a citizen and not list manager, although it very much
reflects my opinions as the list manager.
One of the reasons that I manage this list, is a from a very deep and
sincere political belief that for our democracy to function
effectively - we need to collectively take a hard look at how we
disagree and debate one another. I've felt the sting of having my own
opinions dismissed and insulted by people who are close to me, but
felt no compunction to listen - because they already have the truth.
I'm interested in creating places online and in real space, where
individuals with dramatically different perspectives and political
viewpoints can respectfully engage each other in discussions about
controversial and normally divisive topics.
As "bigoted" as the proposed constitutional amendment appears in many
of our eyes, using that terminology in this type of discussion does
nothing more than inflame emotions, deepen ideological divides, and
stifle real discussion.
As deeply as I disagree with close family members and friends about
the issues regarding homosexuality and "same-sex" marriage, I refuse
(or try not) to act with the arrogance and self-righteousness with
which others have treated me.
Unless, I'm willing to show some respect for those with whom I'm
disagree, there is no room for discussion.
While some members of this forum come here to share the "truth" (both
from the left and right) and don't give a damn about those who
disagree with them, I hope that the majority come with a willingness
to share opinions - but also to listen and learn - especially when
the topic is emotional and controversial.
As appropriate as it may feel, calling people "bigots" accomplishes
little except giving oneself a short term feeling of satisfaction. It
certainly does not increase the chance that one will be heard by ones
opponents, it alienates those in the middle, and it distracts the
discussion away from the issue - which is what everyone came here to
talk about.
These are my opinions, to which I welcome responses - rebuttals - and
thoughtful criticisms. I prefer that they come in private, because
the subject is somewhat off-topic for the forum.
Best wishes,
Tim Erickson
Hamline Midway
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